SS-Obersturmbannfuhrer Peiper - Naive, Desperate or Suffering from Battle Fatigue ?

Discussion in 'Axis Units' started by Drew5233, Jun 25, 2009.

  1. James S

    James S Very Senior Member

    If "the killings in Belgium" is Malmédy then indeed he was not guilty of that. But mind you, he had his share in killing pow's and civilians during that week in the Ardennes.

    The SS certainly did leave many dead civilians behind them , I can't say definitely that JP ordered their deaths but murder is murder.
    Agate's book didn't really do much for me I found him too much in love with "the man and the myth"
    Whilst I do find some of the waffen SS officers interesting in their own right I try to balance the men , their actions and the regime they fought for.
    As "Von Poop" said it is not all black and white.
    70 years on answers are still hard to find.
  2. Rule.303

    Rule.303 Member

    My belief is Peiper is a honorable man. I believe he felt McCowan was too.
    That is quite the statement considering the very same fellow was a personal adjutant to Himmler (the previous Adj. To Peiper was fully aware of the extent of the crimes against the jews so how can Peiper claim ignorance?) as well as reportedly having witnessed a gassing.

    One could argue he was a efficient commander/soldier but a man of honour? I would call that a stretch.:unsure:
  3. Martin Bull

    Martin Bull Member

    This is an interesting thread and good to see that it hasn't gone too far off the rails....;)

    Going back to the original question, I've just re-read Rynolds' Peiper book and was interested to note that Peiper 'disappears' from most German records between 26/12/44 and 6/2/45, and that on 30/1/45 SS Major Dr Kurt Sickel certified that Peiper had suffered a 'commotio cerebri', which can refer either to concussion or in some cases mental breakdown.

    Or maybe just a severe case of combat fatigue.....
  4. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Anniversary of the Malmedy Killings today.

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  5. Jedburgh22

    Jedburgh22 Very Senior Member

    The interrogation methods used on the SS POWs were severe and protracted, and some descriptions seem akin to gratuitus torture - thus the true facts of what actually happened will probably never be known, as for Pieper his state of mind was probably that of trying to concentrate on the battle, many of his troops were 'green' replacements who were an unknown quantity in combat.
  6. cash_13

    cash_13 Senior Member

    Great Topic...:)
  7. Roxy

    Roxy Senior Member

    The story is told in 'Nazi Hunters' on Yesterday today - repeated again at midnight.

  8. stolpi

    stolpi Well-Known Member

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