Spot The Actor....

Discussion in 'General' started by MongoUK, Mar 30, 2018.

  1. MongoUK

    MongoUK Junior Member

    Morning all,

    Quick overview, my grandad served in Phantom, where I assume he knew David Niven. My research hasn't quite reached conclusive evidence yet, however, the photo I have attached leads me to assume so.

    I'm yet to work out where the picture was taken, whether on set, or I've read a snippet about a party that Niven organised and invited Hollywood types to.

    The photo is autographed by Leslie Howard and Sally Gray, this lead me to assuming that there were 3 film stars on this picture.

    I have watched The Way Ahead tonight, and now believe that Peter Ustinov and Lesley Dwyer are possibly also on here.

    Could there be anyone that I don't recognise that the collective does?

    I also wonder whether The Way Ahead may have loose ties to Phantom, as the unit suffered as the British Air Mission in Dunkirk, to then be posted to North Africa? Just a thought with the Ustinov/Niven connection.

    Thoughts?

    Thanks guys
     

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  2. amberdog45

    amberdog45 Senior Member

    Great photo, thanks for sharing. Niven's book The Moons A Balloon was one of the first books my Dad recommended I read. I enjoyed his acting too.
     
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  3. bamboo43

    bamboo43 Very Senior Member

    My Dad too, Maria, brilliant book.
     
  4. Guy Hudson

    Guy Hudson Looker-upper

    Leslie Howard is stood in front of David Niven.

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    Sally Gray

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  5. Cee

    Cee Senior Member Patron

    Folks,

    How about Peter Ustinov seated immediately in front of Howard and to left of Sally Gray?
     
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  6. MongoUK

    MongoUK Junior Member

    Leslie Dwyer peeking through at the back?
     

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  7. Cee

    Cee Senior Member Patron

    Mongo,

    Your first comparison above shows Ustinov from the movie "The Goose Steps Out" (1942). He was born in 1921 so he would have been 21-22 years old in 42-43. My choice appears to be an older fellow so I'm probably off there.

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    Regards ...
     
  8. Blutto

    Blutto Banned

    Using a snip from The Way Ahead, I'm not convinced Ustinov is in that photo. I'm focusing on things like ears and nose shapes when I say that.

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  9. Charley Fortnum

    Charley Fortnum Dreaming of Red Eagles

    Agreed. He gave me my degree, but I digress.

    The chap in the top left corner looks very familiar to me. I'm thinking of his face looking older, so perhaps somebody who went on to act in bigger roles or movies...
     
  10. Blutto

    Blutto Banned

    There's a couple that give me the same feeling too, but I'm not going to re-run all the St Trinian's and similar movies to find them :)
     
  11. MongoUK

    MongoUK Junior Member

    On another look, the ears are all different, so I'm invlined to agree. Still think it's Leslie Dwyer in the back, still none the wiser on the gathering haha
     
  12. Blutto

    Blutto Banned

    Forgot to say that I concur on Leslie Dwyer.
     
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  13. MongoUK

    MongoUK Junior Member

    Just to add some additional detail to this, for future reference, I have found a reference to Niven being 2IC of "B" Squadron, with Major J.A. Warre MC being CO.

    The officer to Niven's right looks to have 12th Lancer plumes for the cap badge and wartime crossed lances on his collars, which would tie in.

    "B" Squadron was amalgamated into "K" squadron and sent to North Africa, led by Warre, which looks to possibly tie in (alongside my granddads embarkation dates).

    The hunt continues!
     
  14. Cee

    Cee Senior Member Patron

    Mongo,

    As for the other woman I spent some time considering Primmie Rollo, Niven's first wife, but in the end thought no not quite.

    Primmie Niven, 1918-1946

    Regards ...
     
  15. Ron Goldstein

    Ron Goldstein WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    If I may have my two penny's worth ?

    Ustinov is definitely NOT in that picture

    Ron
     
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  16. MongoUK

    MongoUK Junior Member

    Thanks for the thought.
     
  17. MongoUK

    MongoUK Junior Member

    Thanks Ron.
     
  18. MongoUK

    MongoUK Junior Member

    Ok, to drag up an old thread.... thoughts on Rosamund John for the other lady? Would tie 3x First Of The Few cast in...
     

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  19. Blutto

    Blutto Banned

    The hairline makes her a strong contender.
     
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  20. MongoUK

    MongoUK Junior Member

    I have updates!!

    Thanks to a very clever lady on Twitter, she has spotted that the lady next to Sally Gray, is none other than Leslie Howard's mistress, Violette Cunnangton aka Suzanne Clair.

    The picture appears to be taken on the set of Pimpernel Smith!

    So happy!
     

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