Southhampton French Raid 1338

Discussion in 'The Barracks' started by Lindele, Oct 5, 2019.

  1. Lindele

    Lindele formerly HA96

    Today 681 years ago.
    See below:

    French Raid - Sotonopedia

    Why is it called French raid?
    The pirates came from all sorts of countries, France, Normandy, Spain.
  2. Robert-w

    Robert-w Well-Known Member

    For the fairly obvious reason one would think that it was commanded by a French admiral

    Which I would think also made them not pirates - where do you get pirates from?
  3. Robert-w

    Robert-w Well-Known Member

    And Genoa is on the Italian mainland not Spansh
  4. Roy Martin

    Roy Martin Senior Member

    One of the Southampton guides used to say that one of the famililes involved in the raid were the Grimaldis, who went on to form Monaco. She said that this was done using the proceeds of the raid, therefore, Monaco belongs to Southampton.
  5. Lindele

    Lindele formerly HA96

    My local newspaper mentioned Castile (today Spain) as well as the term pirates. So the admiral could have been from Spain as well.
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  7. Robert-w

    Robert-w Well-Known Member

    What is the paper's source?
  8. Lindele

    Lindele formerly HA96

    Honestly, I do not know. How important is it to you?
  9. Robert-w

    Robert-w Well-Known Member

    Well it sort of decides if the info you have provided is worth discussing
  10. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Because the French were the instigators/commanders.
    Castillian & Genoese Mercenaries were reasonably commonplace across continental armies of the time (though perhaps not as common as 'Italians' & 'Germans' in later centuries). It's hard to even define such groups as 'Italian', in modern terms, their home states being pre how we understand those areas today - some even existing almost solely by the skill at arms of their occupants - Castille & Leon were being forged into more what we know as Spain, but the Kingdom of France stood as an entity largely as the Republic does today.
    The Hundred Years was between England & France - nations have always used good paid (or religiously motivated) fighters if they can find them, but that doesn't change who the actual belligerents are.
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  11. Lindele

    Lindele formerly HA96

    I'll double check the source with the newspaper on Monday/Tuesday.
  12. Lindele

    Lindele formerly HA96

    The newspaper can or does not want to tell me the source. So, it was fake news.
    Sorry all.

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