SIGNATURES and AVATARS

Discussion in 'The Barracks' started by CTNana, Jun 6, 2007.

  1. TTH

    TTH Senior Member

    I have had some inquiries about my avatar, so I may as well explain it. The picture is Terry Downe, and I don't mean the prizefighter--though my Terry does have an excellent right cross.

    Terry Downe (comic book character)
     
  2. Steve Mac

    Steve Mac Very Senior Member

    Tilt your head to the left and you will see the 'H' formed with the tops of the 'T's. - sort of.

    I can see that, but it still isn't an 'H' to my mind. :)

    Anyway, as TTH says, it is a fine Avatar; as is yours Reme!

    Best,

    Steve.
     
  3. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    TTH
    The picture is Terry Downe,
    Ah Adam did have right comic book then, I didnt have a clue.
    Cheers that clears that one up.


    Steve doesnt the TT form a lower case 'h' ?
     

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  4. Wills

    Wills Very Senior Member

    According to Cole (div signs) Tyne, Tees and Humber ? T.T.h
     
  5. freebird

    freebird Senior Member

    Technically that's not an avatar it's a Signature Photo.
    ;)

    Should that be a separate thread then? :unsure:

    Mine is the Firefly. B) Much maligned & not well understood by those outside the Empire. :D

    The Sig is the Dorsetshire, which my great uncle served on.
     
  6. Andreas

    Andreas Working on two books

    Maynard says chew.

    All the best

    Andreas
     
  7. Steve Mac

    Steve Mac Very Senior Member

    Steve doesnt the TT form a lower case 'h' ?

    According to Cole (div signs) Tyne, Tees and Humber ? T.T.h

    Hello Owen/Wills,

    I have always read differently and from one source, 'The Path Of The 50th' (Clay - Gale & Polden):

    "The two superimposed T's, red on a black background, stood for Tyne and Tees. It was then noticed that when the badge was looked at sideways the two T's formed an 'H'; so the three main rivers which flowed through the Northumbrian Division's area - Tyne, Tees and Humber - were thus represented in the sign."

    The sign evolved in 1939 from a proposal from Major Freeman Attwood, who was GSO2 at Divisional HQ. I read elsewhere that the proposer had previously served with the 51st (Highland) Division and had used the famous 'HD' sign as his inspiration; notice again the capital letters.

    I hadn't noticed the lower case option before, Owen. Well spotted!

    How reliable is Cole, Wills? Does it have any narrative about the origins of the sign? I am not familiar with Cole!

    Best,

    Steve.
     
  8. RemeDesertRat

    RemeDesertRat Very Senior Member

    Of course! Cole, thats where I read it. :)
    50th.jpg
     
  9. RemeDesertRat

    RemeDesertRat Very Senior Member

    Howard Cole: Formation badges of WW2, Britain, Commonwealth and Empire. by Arms and Armour Press, I've been told its very comprehensive and reliable.
     
  10. Steve Mac

    Steve Mac Very Senior Member

    Of course! Cole, thats where I read it. :)

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    Hello Reme,

    Is that an excerpt from Cole? I ask because it mentiones a capital 'H', which is what I always read it was supposed to be.

    I don't think much to the general history attributed to the 50 Div in the excerpt, some of it is inaccurate. However, the name Colonel Grant rings a bell; he may actually be the ex Highland Division officer who designed the sign, rather than Major Attwood who proposed it. Looks like I need to do more research on the origins of the sign!

    Best,

    Steve.
     
  11. Tanja van Zon-Anderson

    Tanja van Zon-Anderson Senior Member

    Mine is 'Onderlangs Arnhem 1939'. That is nearby the spot where my uncle and some others were killed and had their fieldgraves in 1944.
     
  12. PeterG

    PeterG Senior Member

    Steve doesnt the TT form a lower case 'h' ?
    As I state on my Formation Badges website British Formation Signs , and according to ColeThe badge was designed by Colonel J. M. Grant, D.S.O., O.B.E. who was a staff captain at the Divisional H.Q. 1938-39, it was two capital 'Ts' (for the Tyne and Tees) in red on a black square. When looked at sideways the two 'Ts' formed a capital 'H', so that the initial letters of the three main rivers which flowed through the Divisional area - the Tyne, the Tees, and the Humber - were represented.
     
  13. RemeDesertRat

    RemeDesertRat Very Senior Member

    Hello Reme,

    Is that an excerpt from Cole? I ask because it mentiones a capital 'H', which is what I always read it was supposed to be.

    Best,

    Steve.

    yep, thats from Cole: Howard Cole: Formation badges of WW2, Britain, Commonwealth and Empire. by Arms and Armour Press,
     
  14. La-de-da-Gunner Graham

    La-de-da-Gunner Graham Senior Member

    I have just changed mine to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II in honour of her Jubilee. After a suitable period I shall change it back to actor John Clegg who played La-De-Da Gunner Graham in 'It Aint Half Hot Mum.'

    Keith
     
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  15. Gebirgsjaeger

    Gebirgsjaeger Senior Member

    Mine is my Grandpa ( at the right) at Sicilly.
     
  16. jacksun

    jacksun Senior Member

  17. Jonathan Ball

    Jonathan Ball It's a way of life.

    It's George Mallory.
     
  18. A-58

    A-58 Not so senior Member

    Mine is my Grandpa ( at the right) at Sicilly.

    The one who was with Ramke, right?
     
  19. Gebirgsjaeger

    Gebirgsjaeger Senior Member

    The one who was with Ramke, right?

    Correct!!!
     
  20. MSGrover1

    MSGrover1 Member

    "Fouled Anchor" Formation Badge 8th GHQ Troops Royal Engineers and Beach Groups. As worn by my Grandfather 89th Field Company RE.

    Sorry for the long detail

    Beach Groups were near brigade-size units employed to secure bridgeheads in assault landings. They were combined arms teams based on an infantry battalion, with teams of specialists from all arms added. The Naval element was made up of Signals and Commandos, the RAF provided a Balloon Barrage and servicing units for the preparation of landing grounds, the Army provided the infantry for perimeter defence, Royal Engineer Field Companies, Mechanical Equipment Platoons, Stores Section/s, Transportation units, RASC general transport DUKW companies, a DID and petrol supply unit, RAMC unit, Corps of Military Police (CMP) and CMP Traffic Control, REME Recovery Section/s and Pioneer Companies. The first of these Groups operated in the Sicily landings and were subsequently employed in the Normandy landings.

    8th GHQ Troops Engineers was formed in 1943 by the conversion of 8th Chemical Warfare Group RE Organized with 89th, 90th, and 91st Chemical Warfare Coys RE. As GHQ Troops Engineers they formed part of the Normandy Beach Groups and when they transferred to normal GHQ Troops duties they continued to wear the badge.
     

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