Shoulder titles

Discussion in 'WW2 Militaria' started by James Massingham, Jul 21, 2019.

  1. Hello, I was wondering if someone with a knowledge of WW2 British uniforms would be able to confirm if these are the correct shoulder titles for their respective regiments in WW2 and if someone had transferred from the Royal Engineers to the Royal Electrical Mechanical Engineers, that their shoulder titles would've changed. All information appreciated, if anyone could also advise what other insignia would be on a uniform, that'd be really useful.

    Regards

    James

    Pioneer Corps shoulder title.png Royal Electrical Mechanical Engineer shoulder title.jpg Royal Engineer shoulder title.jpg Royal Artillery shoulder title.jpg
     
  2. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Those Pioneer Corps ones look very similar to a photo on an auction site

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    Are the others on the same auction site?
    militaryauction .org


    TD
     
  3. The pictures are from various websites I believe, they're for illustration only at this point, if I know they are the right ones I'll be looking to purchase some examples as well as other insignia.

    James
     
  4. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    What searches have you already undertaken to resolve your question - I ask as there is no point in going down the same avenues you have already been down.

    I am sure there are books on the subject

    Have you tried the search facility of this site?

    TD
     
  5. I've found nothing conclusive in my searches on other websites as well as here, are you able to offer any insight? I have also hired a researcher to look a the full service history of the family members involved, I will be asking them for information also, but I thought this was a good place to post and verify.

    James
     
  6. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    aha James why dont you post re your family members details here with what you know and add a bit of context
    hiring a researcher sounds expensive

    stick all you know on here and you get help for nowt


    British Formation Signs

    if family members have you applied for their Get a copy of military service records
     
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  7. Herbert Edward Massingham - Royal Artillery, went to Iceland as part of the Alabaster force and spent time in North West Europe.
    Hugh Chrisp Bullock - Royal Engineers / Royal Electrical Mechanical Engineers, in the BEF, evacuated from Dunkirk and later served in Egypt.
    Eric Forshaw Wilson - Pioneer Corps, aboard the Mohamed Ali El Kebir, which was torpedoed en route to Gibraltar.

    The researcher is going to give me a complete service history so I can then locate war diaries etc, it gives me the reassurance that they will give me accurate information to base the rest of my research on, the research of insignia is to put together a framed presentation of medals of my relatives.

    Again, any help would be appreciated, accuracy for me, as I'm sure for everyone else is key.

    Regards

    James
     
  8. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    UMMMMM
    have you actually applied for their service records?
     
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  9. Tony56

    Tony56 Member Patron

    Overtaken by your last post but I can only endorse CL1's post. You can send off for an individuals service records and get full details of their service. Remember that there is very little available otherwise. You do not need any service details to get the records. Just name, date of birth and death certificate (unless they were KIA).
     
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  10. Rich Payne

    Rich Payne Rivet Counter Patron 1940 Obsessive

    REME was formed in 1942 and took over functions (and personnel) from RAOC (Ordnance) and RASC (Service Corps)...It had nothing whatsoever to do with the Royal Engineers. The BEF had a substantial RE component as it operated its own port and railway systems as well as the front line units. A transfer from RE to REME was not common. If you're tyring to be accurate with shoulder titles then period is important and there is often a distinction between woven and printed titles.
     
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  11. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

  12. I have their service records, but I need someone to go through them so I know where to look next, as my original post references I am looking to confirm the correct shoulder titles for each person.
     
  13. My relative served in the Royal Engineers and transferred into the Royal Electrical Mechanical Engineers, hence why I am looking for confirmation of both.
     
  14. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    You could post them in this section & the members can help with them.
    Service Records
     
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  15. Tony56

    Tony56 Member Patron

    I would suggest that you create a new post for each individual under their name, number & regiments and post a copy of the records. People around here will freely help you interpret them.
     
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  16. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    James 3 sets of records total £90 quid loads of help here nowt
    When you want war diaries a couple of members on here do a copy service at Kew for a very reasonable rate
     
  17. As mentioned I have their service records from the M.O.D. and will be having them researched and I am already in contact with someone to copy War Diaries for me, the specifics of my enquiry on the original post are simply about the shoulder titles. I will repost individually on a more specific chat.

    Regards

    James
     
  18. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    ok James
    but the experts here need a bit of context to help
    as stated
    if you start a thread for each
    forum members can assist
     
  19. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    The patches look to be of the right colours for the time, however those all look to clean, neat and tidy for me to be originals, they could be originals, thats just my opinion. You would need to chacek the backs of them as well and not being a specialist in badge/patch manufacture, you might be able to tell by the way the stitching is done whether they are off the time or of more modern manufacture.

    TD
     
  20. As long as they are the right ones, the fact that they are modern or not isn’t a concern, just to know I am on the right track.
     

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