Hi I visited an elderly lady in the village of Portrane, North County Dublin, in relation to the Gt. War service of her Uncle & Father in Law. While there she also gave me this photo from WW2. Regards Ian C NOW POSTED IN IRISH GUARDS!!!!
I love looking at these course photo's...The Army is always big on uniformity when taking such photo's and I wonder if the little things are done on purpose, a kind of rebellion if you like against army discipline. For example one of them has his heels together and the other is at ease, one of the soldiers in the front row doesn't have his fist clenched. When I posed in Squadron photo's me and a mate always swapped rank slides, him being busted to a Corporal and me being promoted to a Sergeant.
Ian, Thanks for sharing, I'll have a look to see what I can find about the names listed when I have a bit of time later. That's the first Gds training squad pic I've seen featuring a dog
Dad told me how he and a couple of his mates drew on moustaches for their photo; some caps set at a jaunty angle. http://www.ww2guards.com/ww2guards/Photos/Pages/1943_OCTOBER,_CPL._P._DOOGANS_SQUAD.html#0 I can just imagine the puzzled questions posed by later generations when checking your service records against photographic 'proof'.
Never thought of drawing on moustaches, that's a good one. The Jaunty Caps reminds me that we did pull our berets down to the left instead of the right once and got marched into the OC's office when the photo arrived at our unit - The boss wasn't happy
I've typed up the names from the photo and placed what info I could find. I ignored details of other possibilities because their Army number did not fall within the apparent range for this squad. This is based on the assumption that men joining up around the same time would have numbers close to each other. 4 men commemorated by CWGC. Sergeant A.J. Wiggam’s Squad, March 1942 Guardsman J MULCAHY Guardsman G. BATTEY The Times of 29 July 1943 listed Guardsman Battey E. G. as Killed Roll of Honour Born Derbyshire, England Residence Sussex, England Theatre: North Africa CWGC http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/2195867/ BATTEY, ERNEST GILBERT Rank: Guardsman Service No: 2723087 Date of Death: 27/04/1943 Age: 20 Regiment/Service: Irish Guards, 1st Bn. Grave Reference: III. K. 11. Cemetery: MASSICAULT WAR CEMETERY Additional Information: Son of Ernest and Mary Battey, of Old Glossop, Derbyshire. Guardsman J. DEVINE Guardsman J. CARNEY Guardsman J. AGNEW It's possible that the details listed below could be the same man, hard to tell given the non-IG army number, so adding just in case. 2IG Pre-embarkation List 6984229 Guardsman Agnew J. 2 Armd - 116 Army No. means he enlisted initially in Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers Guardsman M. McINERNEY Guardsman J. BARTON 2IG Pre-embarkation list 2723088 Guardsman Barton J. 2 Armd - 2 Guardsman W. JONES 2IG Pre-embarkation list 2723086 Guardsman Jones W. 2 Armd - 23 Guardsman G. GOODING Guardsman W. HAMILTON Guardsman W. BOOTH Guardsman W. CRAWFORD Guardsman J. BLACK The Times of 13 Apr 1945 listed Lance-Corporal Black J. H. as Died of Wounds 2IG Pre-embarkation list 2723094 Lance-Corporal Black J. 2 Armd - 71 Roll of Honour Born Co. Tyrone, Northern Ireland Residence Lancashire, England Theatre Western Europe Campaign CWGC http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/2108846/ BLACK, JAMES HENRY Rank: Lance Corporal Service No: 2723094 Date of Death: 08/09/1944 Age: 28 Regiment/Service: Irish Guards, 2nd Bn. Grave Reference: X. 18. 17. Cemetery: BRUSSELS TOWN CEMETERY Additional Information: Son of William and Sarah Black; husband of Sarah Eleanor Black, of Dungannon, Co. Tyrone, Northern Ireland. Guardsman W. BOWEN The Times of 27 Nov 1943 listed Guardsman Bowen W. - Died CWGC BOWEN, WILLIAM Rank: Guardsman Service No: 2723089 Date of Death: 14/10/1943 Age: 22 Regiment/Service: Irish Guards, 3rd Bn. Grave Reference: Sec. 22. C. of E. Grave 2246. Cemetery: LIVERPOOL (ANFIELD) CEMETERY Additional Information: Son of Albert Ernest and Jane Bowen, of Liverpool. Guardsman D. DEMPSEY Sergeant A.J. WIGGAM 1989, IG Journal 2717790 Sergeant Wiggam A. J. from 10 May 1933 to 4 Nov 1937 & from 1 Sep 1939 to 1 Jan 1946, died on 24 Jan 1989 aged 76 Guardsman J. MURPHY Guardsman E. FARRELL The Times of 30 Mar 1944 lists Guardsman Farrell E. as Killed Roll of Honour Born Paisley Residence Paisley Theatre Italy CWGC http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/2678010/ FARRELL, EDWARD Rank: Guardsman Service No: 2723080 Date of Death: 26/01/1944 Age: 21 Regiment/Service: Irish Guards, 1st Bn. Grave Reference: I, U, 11. Cemetery: ANZIO WAR CEMETERY Additional Information: Son of Joseph and Elizabeth Farrell, of Paisley, Renfrewshire. Guardsman S. HUSTON
Nice to see another one of Bunce's. His images are always good and his detailed mounts are first-class. If only other group photos gave so much info. I have one of 2nd Northampton's NCOs and senior officers also dated March 1942 when they were billetted around Caterham.
Linking this which I posted the other day, in case others are searching for info. George & Herbert Bunce, Photographers of Caterham & Purley: Order Books, Account Books & Glass Plate