Service Records

Discussion in 'Service Records' started by kim987, Dec 1, 2019.

  1. kim987

    kim987 Junior Member

    Hi all
    I recently applied for two of my uncles service records, I got Next Of Kin permission for both of them. My question is will I receive the records or will the go straight to the next of kin . I only ask as they have both received letters from the M O D saying that they are dealing with the application and I have not. Any information will be appreciated.

    Thanks
    Kim
     
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  2. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    Kim

    if the person died over 25 years ago you can get full records
    if they died less than 25 years ago you get a one page break down of their service

    you do not have to be next of kin to apply
    if you applied they should go to you

    Apply for the records of someone who's deceased
    You can apply for a copy of someone else’s service records if any of the following apply:

    • you’re their immediate next of kin, for example their spouse or parent
    • you’ve got consent from their immediate next of kin
    • you have a general research interest - you’ll only have access to limited information, unless they died more than 25 years ago

    regards
    Clive
     
  3. James Harvey

    James Harvey Senior Member

    What address did you put on the application form

    yours or theirs

    regards

    jsmes
     
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  4. kim987

    kim987 Junior Member

    Clive
    Thank you I wanted to make sure I got all the information so I went with the next of kin permission, both have died over 30 years ago

    Hi James
    Both addresses, on the application for enquiries with consent of next of kin, they put their address. then in the in the part where it says...name of the person making the application... they put my name and address.
    As I said before, it just seemed strange that they both received letters from the m o d when its me who has applied for them.

    Regards
    Kim
     
  5. James Harvey

    James Harvey Senior Member

    I would contact them to find out why you haven’t been notified

    regards

    james
     
  6. Red Goblin

    Red Goblin Senior Member

    Sorry Kim but, at risk of seeming facetious, the Law of Universal Cussedness ensures that, given a choice, they will almost certainly pick the wrong one. Also, as each £30 fee is only supposed to cover the admin costs of one set, I would realistically regard it as folly to expect any duplication of acknowledgement.

    What's more, on the subject of jobsworth attitudes and only getting what you pay for, our forum advisers often stress the importance of making sure not to risk being short-changed - a recent example being, "Ask for ALL file information to ensure you get all they have, sometimes they may have more than one file, so worth checking."

    Steve
     
  7. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    Kim over 25 years you dont require next of kin permission and should get the full records
    You should have just put your details in as per the instructions on the web site


    regards
    Clive
     
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  8. kim987

    kim987 Junior Member

    James I have just sent an email to them to find out what's going on thanks for the advice
     
  9. kim987

    kim987 Junior Member

    Steve thanks for your input I have emailed them on the advice of James, fingers crossed they get back to me and it gets sorted
     
  10. kim987

    kim987 Junior Member

    Clive with hindsight I agree with you, the forms where filled in correct with Next Of Kin consent form, they asked for N O K address and applicants address if different.

    Thank you all for taking the time to help me, I will let you know what happens

    Regards
    Kim
     
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  11. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    Kim any issues forum members will try to assist you


    regards
    Clive
     
  12. kim987

    kim987 Junior Member

    Hi All
    Got an email back from a lady at the Historical Disclosures Dept, saying one of the service records has been amended and I have also received a letter of acknowledgment.
    Apparently someone else will contact me regarding the other service record.
    Now I just have to wait another 5 months to see if I actually do get them.
    Once again I would like to thank Clive James and Steve for all your help and advice.

    Regards
    Kim
     
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  13. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    Well done Kim
    keep us all updated

    regards
    Clive
     
  14. Red Goblin

    Red Goblin Senior Member

    Ooh, er - I hope you mean your request for it rather than the record itself as the latter would imply Minitrue-style evidential tampering !

    And I hope your PR contact's faith in her 'worker bee' colleagues' ability to actually deliver on her promise is justified in light of the old truism that "Happiness is a scapegoat" - or what my old dad would call 'duckshoving' (not simply 'passing the buck' but hurriedly ducking down whilst shoving a 'hot potato' across onto some poor unsuspecting colleague).

    And I certainly hope Clive's optimism proves justified but, to finally quote the late great Terry Pratchett's Discworld Noir in my defence;
    "Pessimism is a term used by optimists
    to attempt to discredit those who see the world as it really is.
    "

    Rambling on as ever,
    Steve :)
     

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