2767066 Eric John Ernest ROSE, 8 Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders: 29/11/1943

Discussion in 'British Army Units - Others' started by everose, Mar 30, 2011.

  1. Buteman

    Buteman 336/102 LAA Regiment (7 Lincolns), RA

    From Findagrave. A partial photo of E J E Rose's Headstone.


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  2. Steve Mac

    Steve Mac Very Senior Member

    Hello again, everose,

    A question for you. How did your granddad end up (originally) in the Black Watch?

    As a native of the Newcastle area it would have been a natural fit for him to end up in the Royal Northumberland Fusliers or the Durham Light Infantry. I am aware that the 12th Bn, Durham Light Infantry became via a change of name the 1st Bn, Tyneside Scottish (and also part of the Black Watch, rather than the Durham's). Was this the connection?

    Best,

    Steve.
     
  3. Tom Canning

    Tom Canning WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Steve - to jump in - probably they needed a warm body to fill up the ranks in the BW depot - at that time.
    In 1942 I asked for a Scottish regiment - so they sent me to the Beds and Herts at Bury ST.Edmunds - then into the Tank training depot at Barnard Castle training on Cruiser Tanks - then Algiers to join a Heavy tank unit with Churchills- hadn't seen those before - so more training .....
    Cheers
     
  4. Steve Mac

    Steve Mac Very Senior Member

    Steve - to jump in - probably they needed a warm body to fill up the ranks in the BW depot - at that time.
    In 1942 I asked for a Scottish regiment - so they sent me to the Beds and Herts at Bury ST.Edmunds - then into the Tank training depot at Barnard Castle training on Cruiser Tanks - then Algiers to join a Heavy tank unit with Churchills- hadn't seen those before - so more training .....
    Cheers

    I thought that was probably the case Tom, but wondered if everose had an insight into possible family connections, etc.

    Best,

    Steve.
     
  5. everose

    everose Junior Member

    Steve

    what first lead me on this trail was my nan telling me that the eric rose she meet was from Darlington but was killed during ww2. I know she meet him in the lymington Hampshire area in 1942(This detail I have received from my nans sister) this is the only eric rose i can find from that area, in fact the only one I can find lived in chester-le-street about 20miles from Darlington that did service I cant find anyother. Why he was in the Black watch I have no idea

    Steve
    everose
     
  6. RosyRedd

    RosyRedd Senior Member

    Part 1/ II and III orders. Part one - daily routine of a unit, from reveille, throughout the day, duties parades etc until lights out. Part II - soldier occurrences - promotions, postings,courses etc. Part III orders, officer occurrences, same as part II for soldiers.

    That's very helpful thank you :)
     
  7. Steve Mac

    Steve Mac Very Senior Member

    Steve

    what first lead me on this trail was my nan telling me that the eric rose she meet was from Darlington but was killed during ww2. I know she meet him in the lymington Hampshire area in 1942(This detail I have received from my nans sister) this is the only eric rose i can find from that area, in fact the only one I can find lived in chester-le-street about 20miles from Darlington that did service I cant find anyother. Why he was in the Black watch I have no idea

    Steve
    everose

    Hello everose,

    Darlington was the HQ for the Durham Light Infantry in those days. My reference in Message #22 to the 12th Bn, Durham Light Infantry, which became via a change of name the 1st Bn, Tyneside Scottish; and also part of the Black Watch, is still possibly relevant. This maybe be a red herring, for the reason Tom states at Message #23.

    Best,

    Steve.
     
  8. Verrieres

    Verrieres no longer a member

    Hello everose,

    Darlington was the HQ for the Durham Light Infantry in those days. My reference in Message #22 to the 12th Bn, Durham Light Infantry, which became via a change of name the 1st Bn, Tyneside Scottish; and also part of the Black Watch, is still possibly relevant. This maybe be a red herring, for the reason Tom states at Message #23.

    Best,

    Steve.

    Hi Steve,
    Remember mate that those lads who came from the 12th DLI would have had DLI service numbers as their enlistment was originally in the Durhams.Erics number was Black Watch from the start so he does not appear to have an original `Durhams` connection.
    Best Wishes
    Jim
     
  9. Steve Mac

    Steve Mac Very Senior Member

    Hi Steve,
    Remember mate that those lads who came from the 12th DLI would have had DLI service numbers as their enlistment was originally in the Durhams.Erics number was Black Watch from the start so he does not appear to have an original `Durhams` connection.
    Best Wishes
    Jim

    Morning Jim, I trust you are keeping well!

    everose's granddad enlisted in early 1942 and wouldn't have originally been a 'Durham', but I am assuming that the 1st Bn, Tyneside Scottish (Black Watch) would have had a presence in Darlington and still recruited/sourced replacements in the North East, and that this 'may' have been his route into the Black Watch.

    It's all assumption and theory at present, but you never know...

    Best,

    Steve.
     

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