Sergeant W. Maguire

Discussion in 'Searching for Someone & Military Genealogy' started by BereniceUK, Mar 12, 2017.

  1. BereniceUK

    BereniceUK Well-Known Member

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    I came across this memorial to a Sergeant W. Maguire in Burnley Cemetery yesterday. It was probably with a family grave originally, but there are no marked graves around it now. The only Sergeant W. Maguire in the CWGC database, either WW1 or 2, is the man below. Can anyone link him to Burnley?

    MAGUIRE, WALTER
    Rank: Serjeant
    Service No: 3377191
    Date of Death: 22/04/1946
    Age: 47
    Regiment/Service: Royal Army Service Corps
    Grave Reference: 11. E. 3.
    Cemetery: KRANJI WAR CEMETERY

    Casualty Details

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  2. Guy Hudson

    Guy Hudson Looker-upper

    Burnley Express 4th May 1946

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  3. Deacs

    Deacs Well i am from Cumbria. Patron

    This seems like the right person Bernice.

    Name:
    Walter Maguire
    Given Initials: W
    Rank: Serjeant
    Death Date: 22 Apr 1946
    Number: 3377191
    Birth Place: Burnley
    Residence: Burnley
    Branch at Enlistment: Other Corps
    Theatre of War: Malaya
    Regiment at Death: Royal Army Service Corps

    His will states he was living at 56 Scarlett street, Burnley. Died 22 Apr,1946, Singapore.

    Mike.
     
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  4. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Re member

    Berenice

    You may need to look at Scottish records, he doesn't seem to appear on UK & Ireland accept perhaps for a marriage in 1933 as below
    Name: Walter H Maquire
    Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1933
    Registration district: Croydon
    Inferred County: Surrey
    Spouse: Madge C Stanger
    Volume Number: 2a
    Page Number: 1408

    TD
     
  5. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Re member

    Hi Mike
    What database is that in??

    TD
     
  6. Deacs

    Deacs Well i am from Cumbria. Patron

    TD he has a family tree on Ancestry and a census for 1901.

    Name: Walter Maguire
    Age: 2
    Estimated birth year: abt 1899
    Relation to Head: Son
    Gender: Male
    Father: John Maguire
    Mother: Charlotta Maguire
    Birth Place: Burnley, Lancashire, England
    Civil Parish: Burnley
    Ecclesiastical parish: Habergham Eaves Holy Trinity
    County/Island: Lancashire
    Country: England
     
  7. Deacs

    Deacs Well i am from Cumbria. Patron

    • birth
      April 1899 • Burnley, Lancashire, England

      1899

      (AGE)

    • Residence
      1901 • Burnley, Lancashire, England
      Relation to Head of House: Son


      1901

      2

    • Death of Mother Charlotta(1859–1935)
      Mar 1935 • Burnley, Lancashire, England

      1935

      35

    • Residence
      1941 • Burnley, Great Britain

      1941

      42

    • Death
      22 Apr 1946 • Malaya, theatre of war
      Address in Burnley had been 56 Scarlett Street. £1056 8s 2d to sister Susan wife of Fred Greenwood


      1946

      47

    • Burial
      Kranji War Cemetary, Singapore
     
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  8. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Re member

    How stupid am I - no one answer that

    Its Maguire and not Maquire

    Thanks Deacs
    TD
     
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  9. BereniceUK

    BereniceUK Well-Known Member

    Thank you, all. It looked as though there might have been some headstone clearing in the past, unless that area was all unmarked graves.
     
  10. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Re member

    It might well be that last section of his parents grave - which may or may not have a reference to his wife (if he was married) based on the fact his probate was not paid to a wife.

    TD

    Wonder if its possible to find out who else is buried in that same plot
     
  11. BereniceUK

    BereniceUK Well-Known Member

    There would be burial records in the Council Cemeteries department. The problem would be, with so few identifiable graves in that area, identifying the exact spot, unless someone from the Cemeteries Dept. was there to help.
     
  12. Brit in NZ

    Brit in NZ New Member

    I am the great niece of Fred Greenwood. In 1947, Susan Maguire Greenwood, Walter's sister and wife of Fred Greenwood, took her own life at the family home (44 Wynotham Street) in Burnley. According to the newspaper report in the Burnley Express, she had been suffering severe depression following her brother's death the previous year.
     
  13. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Re member

    Hi Brit

    Welcome and thanks for the additional information - always good to have closure

    TD
     
  14. Brit in NZ

    Brit in NZ New Member

    Thank you, TD. It's very sad that it ended in this horrible way. Walter and Susan were obviously very close, both single and living together at 56 Scarlett Street, Burnley in the 1939 register. Cheers, Sue
     
  15. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Re member

    Problems like this weren't spoken about in those days, and were usually kept quiet and behind closed doors without any sort of support network (as they would call it today), nowadays people sneeze and expect support and benefits.


    For Information
    England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations),
    Name: Susan Greenwood
    Death Date: 10 Aug 1947
    Death Place: Burnley
    Probate Date: 13 Dec 1947
    Registry: London, England
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    England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
    Name: Susan Greenwood
    Death Age: 53
    Birth Date: abt 1894
    Registration Date: Sep 1947
    Registration district: Burnley
    Inferred County: Lancashire
    Volume: 10b
    Page: 528

    TD
     
  16. Brit in NZ

    Brit in NZ New Member

    You're absolutely right. Thank you very much for the extra information. Cheers Sue
     

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