Sergeant Fear No. 5678305

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  1. Ben14

    Ben14 Active Member

    Hello

    I am looking for information about Sergeant Fear No. 5678305


    it' s a para who has drop at Grangues (Normandy), in a field north of the castle

    is it possible to find information of this sergent ??


    thank's

    Ben
     
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  2. Ben14

    Ben14 Active Member

  3. Mr Jinks

    Mr Jinks Bit of a Cad

    Service number is a Somerset Light Infantry number.. there`s a start :)

    Kyle
     
  4. 379/101 HAA

    379/101 HAA Ubique

    FEAR is a very common surname in Somerset so this ties up. I`ve been researching a FEAR family from Weston-super-Mare who my Grandfather had connections with during the war. Unfortunately I don`t know of any family member who had this service number but Somerset seems to be the right area.

    John
     
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  5. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    In Paradata there is a Corporal Frederick Rowland Fear who was in the SLI before transferring to the Para's but he was not in Normandy, but was in Operation Dragoon in the south of France.

    Do you have more info on him e.g. parents names etc

    TD

    Edited to add:
    Date of birth might be useful as well.
     
  6. arnhem2280

    arnhem2280 Member

    Sgt Fearwas 7th Battalion Parachute Regiment and was wounded in August 1944.

    Hope this helps.

    Cheers

    Arnhem
     
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  7. Cee

    Cee Senior Member Patron

    Ben,

    There's a Pte. Fear on the 7 Para nominal roll, but with a different service number. There is no Fear listed in the stick of men that accompanied Lt. Bowler, dropped near Grangues if that is the one you mean.

    Pte. Fear, 7th Para Bn Nominal Roll.jpg

    Regards ...
     
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  8. arnhem2280

    arnhem2280 Member

    This one is definitely 5678305 Sgt J Fear also listed as wounded 11/8/44.

    Cheers
     
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  9. Ludo68000

    Ludo68000 6th Airborne D-Day

    Hi Ben,

    I haven't found anything in my data.
    I checked the 7th Para sticks in the grangues area; there is one, CN156
    in which there were:
    Lieut BOWLER
    Pte EDWARDS
    L/Cpl BINNS
    Pte TEBBET
    Pte JAMIESON
    Pte MOLD
    Pte SLATER
    L/Cpl BAGE
    Pte TROUTT
    Pte TRAIL
    Pte ROGERS
    S/Sgt MARSDEN
    Pte JAY
    L/Cpl WILLIAMS
    Pte SCHWARTZ
    CQMS MIDLANE
    Sgt WARWICK

    it is certain as there is an account from Wally TROUTT in which he mentions he dropped into Grangues.

    but no Sgt FEAR in that stick.
    Regards,

    Ludo
     
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  10. horsapassenger

    horsapassenger Senior Member

    From "Tale of Two Bridges" - Sgt Fear was in 7 Platoon under Lt Parish
     
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  11. Ben14

    Ben14 Active Member

    thank's for your answers

    the Over-smock of Sgt fear was found in Jun 44 in a fiel south-west of Grangues

    now in museum of Benouville

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  12. brithm

    brithm Senior Member

    I have Fear in Lt. Archdale's stick in Chalk 152 flown by 190 Squadron captained by a Pascoe.

    It seem the stick may have been dropped on coordinates 1173 on a 1:25,000 scale map. Also dropped 8 green containers with 4x mortars, Machine gun with 500 rounds, 2000 rounds of .303, 2 Radio sets with a range finder plus 750 rounds and 2,000 rounds of 303.

    Stick:
    Lt. Archdale,
    Cpl. Sullivan (P/W),
    Pte. Prime,
    Pte. Lake,
    Pte. McDonald,
    Pte. Tindall,
    Pte. Marchant,
    Pte. Brown,
    Pte. Reynolds,
    Sgt. Delderfield (P/W),
    Pte. Belsey,
    Pte. Turner (P/W),
    Cpl. Docherty (P/W),
    Pte. Truman,
    Pte. Nash (P/W),
    Pte. Bull,
    Pte. Brown,
    Pte. Fear,
    Pte. Dyer,
    Pte. Perry,
    Sgt. French

    brithm
     
  13. Cee

    Cee Senior Member Patron

    Ben,

    It's strange the over-smock of Sgt. Fear should be found south-west of Grangues? I asked Michael P-C and he told a similar story.

    "The outer jump jacket presented to the Pegasus museum recently has Sgts Fear's name written inside and was given to the Mairie at Grangues years ago. It is the only known example of the early DZ markings for 7 Para a white diamond on a green circle worn by all officers and NCOs on D-Day."

    How it ended up in that field I don't know? We are missing a piece of the story.

    Regards ...
     
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  14. Ludo68000

    Ludo68000 6th Airborne D-Day

    Hi all,
    one possibilty could be a mix up of Oversmock prior to the jump. In that case someone else was wearing Sgt Fear smock on the Big jump.

    Regards, Ludo
     
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  15. Mr Jinks

    Mr Jinks Bit of a Cad

    Morning,

    Please I think I`m missing something ,if `Fear` is a Pte in `brithm` list then how is his smock named to a `Sgt` ???. Sorry if I`ve missed the obvious :(

    Kyle
     
  16. Cee

    Cee Senior Member Patron

    Hi Kyle,

    As it turns out there were two Fears with the 7th Parachute Battalion. The first, Pte. Percy Frederick Fear 7951195, was with the mortar platoon if he jumped with Lt . Archdale (see my attachment above and Brithm's list).

    The man in question, however, is Sgt . J. Fear 5678305 (as pointed out by Arnhem and horsapassenger) who is listed as a section Sergeant under Lt. Walter Parrish, CO of 7 Platoon "C" Coy. "C" Coy were in the lead Stirlings to take off from Fairford carrying 7 Para men.

    We know that Sgt . J. Fear is not listed as being with any of the aircrraft or horsas that came down at Grangues, nor is he in the stick of men who jumped from CN 156 under Lt. Bowler and landed in the area (see Ludo's list above). So how would his outer jump jacket end up being found in the Grangues area which is some 16 kilometres by road from Ranville and DZN?

    Hope that helps and my summary is for the most part correct ... :)
     
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  17. Mr Jinks

    Mr Jinks Bit of a Cad

    Hi Cee,
    Thanks for the explanation told you I missed the obvious :)


    Kyle
     
  18. brithm

    brithm Senior Member

    Could it be that it was left during the Seine advance at De Grangues?

    Sorry about the mix up everyone!

    brithm
     
  19. BrianHall1963

    BrianHall1963 Well-Known Member

    Good evening Cee I’ve just came across this thread while read through the airborne section,Sgt Fear was injured on the night my uncle was killed he was C company do you know if they where in the same stick . Thank you in advance to all who have posted their knowledge here very best Brian
     
  20. Cee

    Cee Senior Member Patron

    Hi Brian,

    John Edwin Fear is listed as a Section Commander with 7 Platoon in the book "The Tale of Two Bridges". Michael P-C in his nominal roll has him as a Sergeant with 7 Platoon for Normandy and the Ardennes. He was wounded August 11th, 1944. I'm not sure of the circumstances there. Presumably later in day from the patrol incident which took your uncle Peter Ely's life?

    The nominal role doesn't give a platoon number for Pte. Peter O.W. Ely only that he was with 'C' Company. The units of some men in your uncle's patrol who were killed or wounded:

    KIA - Pte. Alfred Leslie Burden - 'C' Coy only given
    KIA - Pte. John David Webster - 8 Platoon, 'C' Coy
    KIA - Lt. John Howard - Platoon and Company not listed
    WIA - Pte. Stanley C. Wood - 9 Platoon, 'C' Coy

    'C' Coy jumped from Stirlings CN 127-133 on D-Day. Best guess is the platoons were allotted aircraft in a numerical order. Without further information it is hard to know which aircraft Pte Ely flew on.

    Regards ...
     
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