Sergeant Annie Taylor, ATS

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  1. Tonym

    Tonym WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Back with another ATS Sergeant problem.

    CWGC Details =

    Sergeant Annie Taylor W/28829 Auxiliary Territorial Service
    Died on 26 January 1945
    Brookwood Memorial

    A grave has been found in St Pancras Cemetery (Camden) =
    Annie Taylor Buried 30 January 1945
    A cemetery burial list has her name and underneath her name
    Is an address – 13 Stephenson House, Shoreham, Sussex.
    A possible connection between the two?
    Unable to find any current reference to a Stephenson House, Shoreham
    I have to assume that it no longer exists.

    Just in case anybody checks I have a thread on RootsChat under the name ‘murton’.
    Apart from details of a Death Certificate, for which I waiting, no further useful info so
    Let us see if WW2Talk can produce any useful info!

    Most of our ‘Veterans’ here have experience of male Sergeants but two difficult ATS
    Sergeants?

    Tony
     
  2. KevinBattle

    KevinBattle Senior Member

    ... there speaks a man with 4,000 women to look after!!

    Seriously....
    Knowing the Brookwood Memorial was for those lost at sea or otherwise with no known grave, I looked for any other female caualties about that time that might be associated with a ship loss etc....
    Having found the date, I recognised 2 of the Names in close association....

    Now, I may be throwing a red herring at you but.......?
    The BROOKWOOD 1939-1945 MEMORIAL commemorates nearly 3,500 men and women of the land forces of the Commonwealth who died during the Second World War and have no known grave, the circumstances of their death being such that they could not appropriately be commemorated on any of the campaign memorials in the various theatres of war. They died in the campaign in Norway in 1940, or in the various raids on enemy occupied territory in Europe such as Dieppe and St Nazaire. Others were special agents who died as prisoners or while working with Allied underground movements. Some died at sea, in hospital ships and troop transports, in waters not associated with the major campaigns, and a few were killed in flying accidents or in aerial combat. The Memorial was designed by Ralph Hobday and unveiled by Queen Elizabeth II on 25 October 1958.

    SCOTT, JEAN. Rank: Private. Service No: W/281139. Date of Death: 25/01/1945.
    Regiment/Service: Auxiliary Territorial Service.
    Panel Reference: Panel 23. Column 1. Memorial: BROOKWOOD 1939-1945 MEMORIAL

    BLOCH, DENISE. Rank: Ensign. Service No: F/27. Date of Death: Between 25/01/1945 and 05/02/1945. Age: 29.
    Regiment/Service: Women's Transport Service (F.A.N.Y.) attd. Special Operations Executive.
    Panel Reference: Panel 26. Column 3. Memorial: BROOKWOOD 1939-1945 MEMORIAL.
    Additional Information: Legion d'Honneur, Croix de Guerre avec Palme. Daughter of J. H. Barrault and Suzanne Barrault (nee Levi-Strauss) of Paris, France.

    SZABO, VIOLETTE REINE ELIZABETH. Rank: Ensig. Service No: F/29. Date of Death: Between 25/01/1945 and 05/02/1945. Age: 23.
    Regiment/Service:Women's Transport Service (F.A.N.Y.) attd. Special Operations Executive. Awards:G C
    Panel Reference: Panel 26. Column 3. Memorial: BROOKWOOD 1939-1945 MEMORIAL.
    Additional Information: Awarded the Croix de Guerre (France). Formerly of the A.T.S. Daughter of Charles George and Reine Blanche Bushell, of Long Jetty, New South Wales, Australia; wife of Lieut. Etienne Szabo, Free French Forces, killed in action at El Alamein. 24th October, 1942.

    May simply be a coincidence..... but I felt it worth offering

    Doh! You said there was a grave at St Pancras. :sign_sorry:
     
  3. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Hi Tony (again)

    Ancestry search throws up the following (some of it I guess you will already know/have) but I will put here anyway:

    UK, Army Roll of Honour, 1939-1945
    Name: Annie Taylor
    Given Initials: A
    Rank: Serjeant
    Death Date: 26 Jan 1945
    Number: 28829
    Birth Place: London W
    Residence: London NW
    Branch at Enlistment: Women's Services
    Theatre of War: United Kingdom
    Regiment at Death: Auxiliary Territorial Service
    Branch at Death: Women's Services

    Actually thats it so far, except to say there is a death for an Annie Taylor in Pancras in March 1945:

    Name: Annie Taylor
    Birth Date: abt 1911
    Date of Registration: Mar 1945
    Age at Death: 34
    Registration district: Pancras
    Inferred County: London
    Volume: 1b
    Page: 122

    I will continue to see if there is any connection OR NOT between the two.

    TD
     
  4. Tonym

    Tonym WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Thanks TD
    I am now intrigued as to the reference of Shoreham, Sussex now that you mention Lonon as her place of birth and residence.
    Hope the D.C.throws some light on it.

    Thanks for your interest

    Tony
     
  5. KevinBattle

    KevinBattle Senior Member

  6. Tonym

    Tonym WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Kevin

    Looks interesting, be interesting to see Annie's cause of death

    Tony
     
  7. Tonym

    Tonym WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Death Certificate details =
    Date & Place of Death – 26 January 1945. 13 Stephenson House, York Rise
    Name - Annie Taylor
    Sex &Age – Female 34 Years
    Occupation – Wife of George Taylor, Squadron ‘Quateraster’ Corporal
    294918, Household Cavalry
    Cause of Death – Pleurisy & Broncho Pneumonia & Influenza. Certified by
    L F C Clarke, L K. GP
    Surname & Residence of Informant – G. Taylor Widower of deceased present at
    Death, 13 Stephenson House, York Rise, St Pancras ***
    Registered – 26 January 1945

    *** So appears to have been a serious error on the Camden Burial list – “Stephenson House, Shoreham , Sussex”

    No reference on her Death Certificate as to A.T.S. Sergeant
     
  8. KevinBattle

    KevinBattle Senior Member

    Quartermaster?
     
  9. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    The only marriage that comes close is:

    Name: Grace Annie Sutton
    Age: 25
    Birth Year: abt 1912
    Marriage Date: 19 Jun 1937
    Archive Provided Parish: Sheen, North, St Philip and All Saints
    Parish as it Appears: North Sheen
    Spouse: William George Edward Taylor
    Spouse Age: 30
    Father: Gilbert Ernest Sutton
    Spouse Father: William Edward Taylor

    TD

    edited to add:
    Her probable birth cert details:

    Name Grace A Sutton
    Mother's Maiden Name Sofield
    Registration Year 1912
    Registration Quarter Jul-Aug-Sep
    Registration district Richmond
    Inferred County Surrey
    Volume 2a
    Page 984
     
  10. Tonym

    Tonym WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Thanks Kevin, Chris Harley has just advised me - bad writing on D.C.- Should have realised that myself!

    T.D.
    Looks interesting paticularly as Annie's husband's name is George

    Tony
     
  11. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Tony

    It seems to be the best as I searched for Annie - born 1911/1912 and marrying a George Taylor between 1930 and 1940. Further searches keeping her birth age the same and opening up the marriage dates still only showed this 1 result, so ...............

    TD
     
  12. Tonym

    Tonym WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Hopefully to solve the problem I have sent for her Service Record, how long that will be ?

    I am now uncertain about the connection between the two Annies as the D.C. for Annie in St Pancras Cemetery gives her occupation as 'Wife'.no mention of A.T.S. unless she was discharged before her death. Anyway hoper the £30 is worth it.

    Tony
     
  13. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    Tony is there a headstone at St Pancras with a location?
     
  14. Tonym

    Tonym WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Sorry Chaps been absent for awhile due to personal physical problems and computer breakdown. You are obviously aware that two Annie Taylor’s are involved so I will refer to the Brookwood Memorial Annie as Annie(1) and St Pancras Cemetery as Annie(2).

    I did obtain Annie(1) Service Record and some of the relevant details in her record agreed completely with the details in Annie(2) Death Certificate that proves that they are the same Annie Taylor.

    Information passed on to Chris Harley, who originally sort my advice, now awaiting official acceptance.

    Tony
     
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  15. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Hi Tony

    Thanks for the update - and take care of yourself

    TD
     
  16. BrianM59

    BrianM59 Senior Member

    Nice work Tony, interesting thread thank you, take care.
     
  17. Tonym

    Tonym WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    ED & Brian

    Thanks for your concern, doing my best but still struggling. Unfortunately my ladies are not getting my full attention.

    Tony
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  18. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    Panel from Brookwood Memorial attached

    TAYLOR, ANNIE

    Rank:

    Serjeant

    Service No:

    W/28829

    Date of Death:

    26/01/1945

    Regiment/Service:

    Auxiliary Territorial Service

    Panel Reference:

    Panel 22. Column 3.

    Memorial:

    BROOKWOOD 1939-1945 MEMORIAL
     

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  19. Tonym

    Tonym WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Thanks CL1

    Was about to put a request for a pic of the panel. I did have a list pf all the panels and lost it when I changed my computer from Windows XP to Windows 7. Most grateful.

    Tony
     
  20. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    Hello Tony

    I went to the cemetery office
    The cemetery has the request from CWGC to install a new headstone.It states no known family found.
    The grave is for a George Taylor G4 107.
    However I had a brief look and a photo attached of the general area which is quite overgrown.
    I shall return.


    TAYLOR, ANNIE




    Rank:

    Serjeant

    Service No:

    W/28829

    Date of Death:

    26/01/1945

    Regiment/Service:

    Auxiliary Territorial Service

    Grave Reference:

    4 G. 107.

    Cemetery:

    ST. PANCRAS CEMETERY





    N.B.
    Recent research has shown that Serjeant Taylor is buried here. The Commission is in the process of producing a headstone to mark her grave.




    regards
    Clive
     

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