Semantics - 'WW2', or 'WWII' ?

Discussion in 'Historiography' started by von Poop, May 1, 2010.

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Which abbreviation do you use?

  1. WW2

    2.0%
  2. WWII

    62.2%
  3. Either

    35.7%
  1. Slipdigit

    Slipdigit Old Hickory Recon

    I'm trying to think of a polite way to say that I'm skeptical of that one.

    Im an amateur but fairly serious WWII buff and I've never heard or read that phrase. And all the men in my family and neighborhood were WWII or Korean vets when I was growing up in the 1950s in America.

    Dave

    I have to agree with you on that one. Dave. I've spoken with thousands of US veterans and read accounts of many, many more and I have never heard that term used.
     
  2. AndyG

    AndyG Researcher

    Writing WW2 saves you answering questions from imbeciles about WW eleven![​IMG]


    LOL spidge
     
  3. Gibbo

    Gibbo Senior Member

    i say Second World War, but usually write World War II. When abbreviating, I've used both WW2 and WWII, but have now settled on WWII for consistency with the earlier conflict: I prefer WWI to WW1.

    Currently, I use World War II and World War I as tags in my blog, but I'm going to add all the variations.

    I have heard British people refer to WWII as 'the War' and WWI as 'the first war.' Generally they've been people who would have been born in the late 40s, early 50s.
     
  4. DanielG

    DanielG Senior Member

    WWII
    [QUOTE

    I have heard British people refer to WWII as 'the War' and WWI as 'the first war.' Generally they've been people who would have been born in the late 40s, early 50s.[/QUOTE]

    Except for being Canadian, me to a 'T', as in 'before the war' and 'after the war'. When a younger type gives me the usual what are you talking about stare I remember to say 'the second world war'.
    I have also seen the 'war two' printed somewhere as a quote but can't remember where.
     
  5. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Hot air manufacturer

    Nothing - if you happen to be a Sovietophile, and always add "(1941-45)" to press the point.

    And that's what I am, but instread of being a Useful Idiot I'm still an Idiot all right but a Useless one through and through :D
     
  6. OpanaPointer

    OpanaPointer Pearl Harbor Myth Buster

    I saw an article from January 1942 that "officially" named it WWII in the US. "The numeric designation is to be avoided." I may still have it somewhere in this tittering forest of books and papers.
     
  7. urqh

    urqh Senior Member

    ww2....

    Yeah but when did it start?

    And who was its best General..Monty or Patton...
     
  8. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Hot air manufacturer

    Best general? Why, Himmler as CAG Vistula :D
     
  9. A-58

    A-58 Not so senior Member

    ww2....

    Yeah but when did it start?

    And who was its best General..Monty or Patton...

    There he goes again, throwing a monkey wrench into the works.
     
  10. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

  11. OpanaPointer

    OpanaPointer Pearl Harbor Myth Buster

    Personally, I'm fond of WW11.
     
  12. Ron Goldstein

    Ron Goldstein WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran Patron

    Just out of interest, i stopped to think how we referred to the war at the time.

    "This bloody war!" comes to mind.

    Ron
     
  13. OpanaPointer

    OpanaPointer Pearl Harbor Myth Buster

    World War II was used as early as 1942, IIRC. (Remembered from a cussin' that took place on another forum years ago, so I may be quite wrong.) I do remember there was a formal "naming" proclamation issued by Truman after the war in the US but for the life of me I can't remember which way it went.
     
  14. bamboo43

    bamboo43 Very Senior Member

    My wife hates it when I use WW2, she says its lazy and looks poor on the page. It is just about the only input she has ever freely given on the subject in about 6 years.
     
  15. idler

    idler GeneralList Patron

    If the job had been done properly the first time, there would have been no need for the second, so how about WW1.0 and WW1.1?
     
  16. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Reminded of Ngrams via a chat with drew elsewhere.
    Need to look up criteria behind them, but basically a graphical representation of occurrences of different words and phrases in what Google books has digitised. Cannot remember if Newspapers are included. (I know there used to be a more targeted variant - will look into that.)

    WW2:
    WW2 Ngram.JPG

    WWII
    wwii.JPG

    World War Two:
    world war two ngram.JPG

    World War 2:
    world war 2 ngram.JPG

    Second World War:
    Second world war ngram.JPG
     
  17. Ron Goldstein

    Ron Goldstein WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran Patron

    I find myself automatically keying in ww2.

    Could be because the No.2 key is conveniently situated just above the W key, whereas to key in WWII requiires the use of the Capital key plus an extra letter ?

    Ron
     
  18. PsyWar.Org

    PsyWar.Org Archive monkey

    Would be great if Google incorporated internet results into the ngram viewer as well.

    (A useful tip, if you separate search terms with a comma the results are displayed on the same graph, e.g. http://ww2talk.com/forums/topic/21012-semantics-ww2-or-wwii/?p=323351)
     
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  19. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

  20. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

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