Second World War Service Files: Canadian Armed Forces War Dead

Discussion in 'Canadian' started by DaveB, Feb 21, 2012.

  1. DaveB

    DaveB Very Senior Member

    Has anyone used this service? I am trying to tie up a couple of loose ends for RAAF casualties in Canada where there was a RCAF member involved so I would like to get their files digitised.

    That seems to be what the website offers, but when I click on the link I kind of lose the plot of what to do next and how much it's going to cost.

    I guess I have to ask for a Photocopy or PDF at $0.40/page and then they will "add digitized copies of the files to the database to make them more accessible".

    Unfortunately I have no clue how many pages the files might contain, I suppose worst case scenario is that it will be 100 pages so about $40 worth............



    Database

    This research tool provides access to 44,093 references to the files for those who died in service during the Second World War.


    How to consult a file or order a copy

    Library and Archives Canada has started to add digitized copies of the files to the database to make them more accessible, to help preserve the originals and to avoid copying the same file more than once.

    For files not yet digitized, you can order photocopies or scanned images. The cost is the same. When a digital copy is requested, the complete file will be scanned and the digital images will be added to the database the next time it is reloaded. In this way, all Canadians can help contribute to the preservation of our country's military heritage.

    Once you have located a reference of interest in the database, you have the following options:

    Option #1

    You can order a copy of a complete file from our Consultation Services. Note that requests for copies must include the name, service number, archival reference and volume number. Files can include as many as 200 or more pages. Due to the large volume of requests we receive, we cannot pre-count the pages for you.
     
  2. 17thDYRCH

    17thDYRCH Senior Member

    Dave,
    Another forum member, Klambie, gave me the name of a researcher based in Ottawa who used to work for Library and Archives Canada. For a very reasonable fee, he can obtain the files you are after. If interested, PM me and I will forward his email address.
    Cheers
    Randy
     
  3. Tullybrone

    Tullybrone Senior Member

    I ordered a relatives hard copy WW1 file from Ottawa about 18 months ago. Very speedy response - got about 20 pages costing if I remember correctly about $18 Canadian - including postage to UK.

    Steve Y.
     
  4. DaveB

    DaveB Very Senior Member

    Thanks all - I decided to go with the option of getting a Canada based researcher to access the files for me.

    On another note, there is a thread that mentions Canadian records and it has the following comment: “I have checked Canadian records but it's not straight forward because Canadian records for RAF attached airman are apparently held somewhere else.”


    Does that make sense? The files I want for a couple of fatalities in Canada are in the same series as this particular individual, so I would presume that they are all filed together.


    http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/war-air/43751-wellington-x-lost-out-foggia-main-italy.html
     
  5. BFBSM

    BFBSM Very Senior Member Patron

    I used this, got about 200 pages, would have cost about $116 Canadian, if they hadn't stuffed it up - actually ended up getting the file for free.

    Mark
     
  6. DaveB

    DaveB Very Senior Member

    I used this, got about 200 pages, would have cost about $116 Canadian, if they hadn't stuffed it up - actually ended up getting the file for free.

    Mark


    That's pretty much the reason I went for the option of paying someone to do it rather than engaging the actual archives staff. If the file is 100s of pages long it ends up costing a fortune when the staff do it, especially when quite a few of the pages would be meaningless to what I need.

    The researcher charges by the hour and by the sounds of it applies a bit of a sanity check to what pages they actually spend time copying.
     
  7. alieneyes

    alieneyes Senior Member

    On another note, there is a thread that mentions Canadian records and it has the following comment: “I have checked Canadian records but it's not straight forward because Canadian records for RAF attached airman are apparently held somewhere else.”


    Does that make sense? The files I want for a couple of fatalities in Canada are in the same series as this particular individual, so I would presume that they are all filed together.


    No, that is incorrect. Whether the Canadian was, say, in a 6 Group Squadron or seconded/attached to an RAF Squadron, all Canadian service files are held by the Library and Archives Canada in Ottawa.
     
  8. steadyeddy

    steadyeddy Junior Member

    Dear Dave B

    I've just received my relative's file from the Canadian Archives for the princely sum of about £79 BUT there were AT LEAST 100 pages. Before ordering, though, I did get an invoice with a 30 day timescale in which to buy or not.

    I've certainly gleaned many details from the records including photocopies of letters written to/from the family. The only thing lacking was a photograph.

    Steadyeddy
     
  9. DaveB

    DaveB Very Senior Member

    It sounds like a good result Steadyeddy - 100 pages on your relative must provide heaps of useful info.

    For my research I have a pretty narrow focus, so having someone knowledgeable peruse the file to only photograph the pages relating to my research was invaluable.

    It only cost me $20 (Australian / Canadian) for the half a dozen pages I required to close off a couple of queries. Money well spent.
     

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