Searching for Sergeant Frank Shaw RA & Airborne

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  1. JimP

    JimP Member

    Frank Shaw.... RA & Commando, Oldham. FShawOldham.png
     
  2. Tony56

    Tony56 Member Patron

    Are you looking for a sergeant?
     
  3. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    UK, Army Roll of Honour, 1939-1945 results for Frank Shaw (Died 1942 +/- 5 years should cover the war years)

    Frank F Shaw Gunner Oldham 6 Jun 1944 Western Europe Campaign, 1944/45 (Aged 22)

    Frank F P Shaw Craftsman Sheffield 25 Oct 1944 Western Europe Campaign, 1944/45
    [Enlisted in Royal Army Ordnance Corps]

    Frank F Shaw Corporal Bolton 16 Jul 1943 Far East (other than places specified)

    Frank F Shaw Private Manchester 18 Feb 1945 Western Europe Campaign, 1944/45

    Frank F Shaw Lance Corporal Oldham Jun 1940 France and Belgium Campaign, 1939/40 (died too early)

    Frank F Shaw Corporal Huddersfield 17 Oct 1944 Western Europe Campaign, 1944/45

    Frank F E Shaw Sapper London SE 18 Jun 1942 Persia-Iraq (died too early)

    As far as I can see none of these are Sergeants, none of them are Commandos (when I check the detail record), only 1 of them is in Royal Artillery.

    Closest one:

    Name: Frank Shaw
    Given Initials: F
    Rank: Gunner
    Death Date: 6 Jun 1944
    Number: 1794179
    Birth Place: Oldham
    Residence: Oldham
    Branch at Enlistment: Royal Artillery
    Theatre of War: Western Europe Campaign, 1944/45
    Regiment at Death: Royal Artillery
    Branch at Death: Royal Artillery`

    Casualty

    See inscription

    The other point here is that this Frank Shaw married in 1943 [to Lily Smith]
    Name: Frank Shaw
    Registration Date: Jul-Aug-Sep 1943
    Registration district: Oldham
    Inferred County: Lancashire
    Spouse: Lily Smith
    Volume Number: 8d
    Page Number: 1601

    and a daughter Enid was born in 1944
    England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1916-2007
    Name: Enid Shaw
    Registration Date: 1944
    Registration district: Middleton
    Inferred County: Lancashire
    Re-registration Year: 1944
    Mother's Maiden Name: Smith
    Volume Number: 8d
    Page Number: 863

    TD
     
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  4. Tony56

    Tony56 Member Patron

    At the risk of complicating things even further perhaps it should not be ruled out that his name could have been Francis!
    Example only: Casualty
     
  5. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    UK, Army Roll of Honour, 1939-1945
    Name: Francis Shaw
    Given Initials: F E
    Rank: Lance Serjeant
    Death Date: 5 Aug 1944
    Number: 3713860
    Birth Place: Liverpool
    Residence: Liverpool
    Branch at Enlistment: Royal Artillery
    Theatre of War: Western Europe Campaign, 1944/45
    Regiment at Death: Royal Artillery
    Branch at Death: Royal Artillery

    TD
     
  6. Guy Hudson

    Guy Hudson Looker-upper

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    You can see the R.A. shoulder titles above his parachute wings.
    His Royal Artillery Sergeant's N.C.O. sleeve badge sewn directly over his stripes.

    If he served in Italy he may well have been with the 1st Airlanding Light Regiment Royal Artillery.

    1st Airlanding Light Regiment, RA
    1st Airlanding Light Regiment - Wikipedia

    The 1st Airlanding Light Regiment didn't appear to have unit specific shoulder titles and retained Royal Artillery titles.

    Gunner Alan Bettes 1st Airlanding Light Regiment Royal Artillery
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  7. timuk

    timuk Well-Known Member

    Further to TD's post 16 the badges are incorrectly placed. The gun should be below 'Airborne' between the 'V' of the top stripe.

    Tim
     
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