Searching for Family Member - Robert Mackay

Discussion in 'Searching for Someone & Military Genealogy' started by AndyP193, Jul 15, 2021.

  1. AndyP193

    AndyP193 New Member

    Hi,
    Hoping someone can help me as I'm new to military research.
    I'm trying to trace a family member, Robert Alexander Mackay, born 15 July 1906, who lived in Bettyhill, Scotland and served in the Lovat Scouts and Royal Tank Corps.
    I'm trying to find any other information about his time in these regiments, or what happened to him afterwards. Having served during the inter-war period, I would expect that he rejoined for WW2, but I cannot find a record for him.
    I've attached his Royal Tank Corps record (1926-1936) for reference.
    Many Thanks
     

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  2. Temujin

    Temujin Member

    Andy, I’m not sure if its me, but the resolution on this makes it very hard to read. Can you post one in a better Rez so we can see the info better?
     
  3. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    Andy first port of call for WW2 is the service records otherwise guesswork kicks in and you can be lead up the wrong path.

    Re WW2 you say you cant find a record for him.You will not find WW2 records on the internet even if the pay for sites promise it so please dont be conned

    You can send an email (this is the records office) with your query and they might be able to assist before you begin the process
    apc-sp-parldiscl-dis4-mailboxATmod.uk
    AT=@

    Below is the info if you do go down the record application
    Get a copy of military service records
    All you require is his date of birth ,death certificate and £30
    There could be a bit of a wait at present

    regards
    Clive
     
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  4. AndyP193

    AndyP193 New Member

    Thanks both.
    I attach a different version of the record, which may be better for viewing.
    I dont have death certificate so not sure I can go down record application route.

    Can you help on understanding this record too.
    As I understand it, this is a record covering his time in the Royal Tank Corps from 1926-1936?
    It lists the Lovat Souts in the names column, which I assume was his previous regiment (ie. pre 1926)?
    Also, how do I understand the cause of discharge column which quotes "Para 199/1 TA Regs"?

    Thanks
     

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  5. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Possible
    England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
    Name: Alexander Robert Mackay
    Death Age: 89
    Birth Date: 7 Jun 1906
    Registration Date: Oct 1995
    Registration District: Worthing
    Inferred County: West Sussex
    Register Number: 42B
    District and Subdistrict: 7863A
    Entry Number: 3

    Your date of birth might be his baptism date - plus forenames are in a different order

    TD

    From a family tree:
    Alexander Robert Mackay
    1906–
    BIRTH 7 JUNE 1906 • Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
    DEATH Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland

    This is more likely as it shows he died in Scotland - you would nee to access Scottish records to obtain his death certificate
     
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  6. Tony56

    Tony56 Member Patron

    For information, as I read his attestation.

    Record set Royal Tank Corps Enlistment Records
    Service number 400339
    First name(s) Robert Alexander
    Last name Mackay
    Lovat Scouts
    Enlistment date 12 Feb 1926
    Territorial 4 years
    Age 19y 6m
    Enlistment Place Bettyhill
    Trade Ghillie
    Birth town Farr, Sutherland
    Father R Mackay, Ky???, Bettyhill, By Thurso
    Discharged 11.2.36 Para 199/1 TA Regs
    Rank Pte
     
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  7. Tony56

    Tony56 Member Patron

    Is this him by any chance, headstone in Bettyhill
    Robert A MacKay Died: 31 Dec 2002 BillionGraves Record

    Record set England & Wales Government Probate Death Index 1858-2019
    First name(s) Robert Alexander
    Last name Mackay
    Death year 2002
    Death date 31 Dec 2002
    Probate year 2003
    Probate date 19 Sep 2003
    Residence town -
    Registry Winchester
    County Hampshire
    Country England
    Document type Grant and will
    Number 1323089
     
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  8. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Another possible

    Scotland and Northern Ireland, Death Index, 1989-2020
    Name: Mr Alexander Mackay
    Gender: Male
    Age: 96
    Birth Date: 1906
    Last Residence: Ardgay, Sutherland, Scotland
    Postal Code District: Iv24
    Death Date: 18 Dec 2002


    Might be worth exploring Statutory registers

    TD
     
  9. AndyP193

    AndyP193 New Member

    Thanks All. I've found his death certificate, in 1939, so he obviously didnt serve in WW2.
    Can anyone still help me with my questions on his Tank corps record that I attached.
    In particular, it lists the Lovat Scouts in the names column, is this his previous regiment (ie. pre 1926)? Given he was only 19 in 1926, does this make sense?
    Also, how do I understand the cause of discharge column which quotes "Para 199/1 TA Regs"?
     
  10. Tullybrone

    Tullybrone Senior Member

    Hi,

    Given that the Lovat Scouts were a TA unit he could have joined on man’s terms of service aged 17 years or he could’ve joined as a Boy aged 15 so it is quite possible he had previous TA service before he joined RTR. The answer will be in his full service file available from UK MOD.

    You’ll need to have sight of Kings Regulations to fully understand his discharge reference.

    Steve
     

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