Search for details of Sapper Harry Smith/Challinor

Discussion in 'Prisoners of War' started by Smac02, Feb 12, 2012.

  1. Smac02

    Smac02 Junior Member

    I am trying to piece together some facts about Sapper W. Challinor No 1944146 of 4 Parachute Squadron RE.
    He served as Harry Smith No 1921708 for some reason? (German? Jewish?)
    He was captured at Arnhem and in various unofficial documents is listed as dying as a POW in October, but not with CWGC etc.

    I would like to clear up this mystery and find out where he is buried if that is the case.

    All help appreciated

    Smac02

    4th Parachute Squadron Royal Engineers
     
  2. horsapassenger

    horsapassenger Senior Member

    Sapper W Challinor is listed in the March 1945 POW list (Alias Smith POW No 27767) as being in POW camp 344 (Lamsdorf) at that time so it would appear that the reference to his death in October 1944 is incorrect

    John
     
  3. Emz87

    Emz87 New Member

    Hi i am searching the same thing and it was William carter, Harry's brother who was the prisoner of war, he was a sapper in the royal engineers his p.o.w number is 2089, he was p.o.w at stalag 344 and apparently the story I was told was that he was sentenced to death but he escaped but he didn't get far because of the cold and lack of food, so when he came across a dead body he used there name and went back into the p.o.w camp, if you have anymore information at all please get in touch as I would love to know more x
     
    Last edited: Sep 19, 2017
  4. Emz87

    Emz87 New Member

    He didn't die as a p.o.w he returned home
     
  5. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    UK, British Prisoners of War, 1939-1945
    Name: W Challinor
    Rank: Sapper
    Army Number: 1944146
    Regiment: Royal Engineers
    POW Number: 2089
    Camp Type: Stalag
    Camp Number: 344
    Camp Location: Lambinowice, Poland
    Record Office: Royal Engineers Record Office, Ditchling Road, Brighton, Sussex
    Record Office Number: 9
    Notes: Alias Smith, P.O.W. No. 27767

    UK, British Prisoners of War, 1939-1945
    Name: Smith
    POW Number: 27767
    Notes: See Challinor W. Spr. 1944146 R.E.


    Just to add to the confusion:
    Name: A Sturges
    Rank: Private
    Army Number: 5110882
    Regiment: Army Air Corps
    POW Number: 27767
    Camp Type: Stalag
    Camp Number: 344

    Camp Location: Lambinowice, Poland
    Record Office: Army Air Corps and Army Catering Corps Record Office, Drill Hall, East Claremont St., Edinburgh 9
    Record Office Number: 45


    TD
     
  6. Emz87

    Emz87 New Member

    Who is A. Sturges? This is intresting, did you see the story i was told about w. Carter in reply to Smac02?
     
  7. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    I think the error can be put down to sloppy recording of POW's as they were being registered into the system, I have seen this before. It could also be that Sturges was registered in another camp then transferred to 344.

    The only POW in camp 344 with the number 2089 is:
    W Challinor Royal Engineers Lambinowice, Poland 1944146 2089 344 9

    Not sure where W Carter comes into it

    TD

    edited to add
    There are another 3 POW's who also have the POW number 2089, but in other camps.
     
  8. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    W Carters held as POW's in camp 344:

    A W Carter The Royal Fusiliers Lambinowice, Poland 6465326 32432 344 23

    G W Carter Royal Army Ordnance Corps Lambinowice, Poland 7593574 31376 344 32

    H W Carter Oxfordshire and Buckinghamshire Light Infantry Lambinowice, Poland 6018821 10178 344 21

    J W Carter The Royal Fusiliers Lambinowice, Poland 6481406 32234 344 23

    W Carter Royal Engineers Lambinowice, Poland 1903887 8363 344 9

    W F Carter Queen's Own Royal West Kent Regiment Lambinowice, Poland 6345705 1447 344 23

    W J Carter Welsh Regiment Lambinowice, Poland 3959073 91001 344 22

    W J Carter Royal Norfolk Regiment Lambinowice, Poland 5772789 9906 344 21

    TD
     
  9. Emz87

    Emz87 New Member

    Carter was the surname of his uncles,aunts and mother before marriage, w challinor or w carter is my nans cousin, thats where i know the story from x
     

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