Rudolph Hess

Discussion in 'General' started by Ciar2001, Oct 26, 2010.

  1. Ciar2001

    Ciar2001 Member

  2. PsyWar.Org

    PsyWar.Org Archive monkey

    There must be more conspiracy theories about Hess than Kennedy, Princess Diana and Dr. David Kelly combined. Last time this story did the rounds it was Ian Fleming doing the luring.

    And I’m not sure how, as the author claims, the capture of Hess was a pivotal turning point of the war?

    His arrival caused more suspicion with our Allies than anything else, particularly in the US. And why lure Hess to Britain, there were much bigger fish to fry.

    Lee
     
  3. Ciar2001

    Ciar2001 Member

    I think it's a way to sell books but interesting all the same ;-)
     
  4. PsyWar.Org

    PsyWar.Org Archive monkey

    Too true :)
     
  5. Harry Ree

    Harry Ree Very Senior Member

    He was most likely acting on his own and probably thought that there were influencial people here who he could parly with on the balance of power in Europe.He must have been motivated by the thought that among a certain set here,there were enough Hitler and German admirers to influence British foreign policy.Apparently the visit was not endorsed by Hitler but afterall Hess was Hitler's deputy and thought he knew the English and being aware of the intended Russian invasion must have thought there was a chance that Great Britain could be kept out of the future struggle for the future of Europe.

    A case of attempting to impress the Fuhrer which came to nought

    In a similar way,Ribbentrop put himself forward as a German specialist who understood the British mentality but whose only experience of the Anglo Saxons was his time in Canada.Hitler must have been convinced of this when he appointed Ribbentrop as the Ambassador to Great Britain during the prewar period.
     
  6. Medic7922

    Medic7922 Senior Member

    This subject reminded me of my time at Keogh Barracks the RAMC training centre near Aldershot, During my time at Keogh we had to undertake training in the old Mytchett house where Hess was kept, if my memory serves me I believe Hess's dog is buried in its grounds

    On May 20, 1941, Rudolf Hess was transported from the Tower of London to Camp Z which was at Mytchett Place. This had been specially set up for his arrival with heavy security and bugging devices. Hess spent 13 months at Camp Z, which was the scene for one of his failed suicide attempts; he had thrown himself off a balcony on June 15, 1941.

    The June 1942 move from Mytchett Place was to become notable following the release of MI5 files in 1999. Previously unfounded rumours had claimed that Hess was moved because intelligence reports indicated that a Polish group was planning to break into the Camp Z, kidnap Hess, and beat or kill him by way of revenge for Nazi atrocities in Poland. The MI5 files included a reference to reports of a gun battle between Polish soldiers and guards at Mytchett, although no precise details were given, so the link is not conclusive.[2]
     
  7. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    On 10 May 1941, Hess undertook a solo flight to Scotland, where he hoped to arrange peace talks with the Duke of Hamilton, whom he believed to be prominent in opposition to the British government. Hess was immediately arrested on his arrival and was held in British custody until the end of the war, when he was returned to Germany to stand trial in the Nuremberg Trials of major war criminals in 1946. During much of the trial, he claimed to be suffering from amnesia, but later admitted this was a ruse. Hess was convicted of crimes against peace and conspiracy with other German leaders to commit crimes and was transferred to Spandau Prison in 1947, where he served a life sentence. Repeated attempts by family members and prominent politicians to win his early release were blocked by the Soviet Union. While still in custody in Spandau, he died by suicide in 1987 at the age of 93. After his death, the prison was demolished to prevent it from becoming a neo-Nazi shrine.
    Rudolf Hess - Wikipedia
     
  8. SteveDee

    SteveDee Well-Known Member

    I understand that it is also the case that his body was dug up twice and moved, before eventually being cremated, to stop his final resting place being used by Neo-Nazi demonstrators.

    His plane ran out of fuel and he jumped, coming down probably within 15-20miles of where my dad was stationed in Scotland at the time. Its not clear from my dads notes whether he took part in the search, but it looks like lads from 59th HAA probably formed search parties.
     
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