Royal Air Force

Discussion in 'The War In The Air' started by Wesley Wright, Dec 10, 2009.

  1. Peter Clare

    Peter Clare Very Senior Member

    David Nelson--R.A.F.-Died-23/02/1944-Singapore
    23/24 February 1944

    1673 HCU

    Liberator B.III. BZ951

    Target: Sinde

    Cause: Air explosion seen.

    Wesley,

    I'm not 100% certain on this loss but its the only match I can come up with that fits for that day.

    Regards
    Peter
     
  2. Oggie2620

    Oggie2620 Senior Member

    :confused: Ouch. Apologies Wesley I didnt mean to sound as if I was having a go but was trying to help. Am I forgiven?

    Dee
     
  3. Wesley Wright

    Wesley Wright Member

    :confused: Ouch. Apologies Wesley I didnt mean to sound as if I was having a go but was trying to help. Am I forgiven?

    Dee

    Offence was not taken--nothing to forgive-i am delighted to "know the right way"
    Wesley Wright
     
  4. Wesley Wright

    Wesley Wright Member

    Willim James Bleeks--RAFVR-20/06/1942--Seagoe cem.
    Stephen George Kirkham-RAFVR-976 Balloon Sqd-30/04/1942-Heliopolis war Cem.
    George Flack-207 Sqd. RAFVR-05/09/1942-Runnymede Memorial
    Wesley Wright
    PS-I have personal details of most of the men that I have posted--so anyone requiring information --just ask.
     
  5. Peter Clare

    Peter Clare Very Senior Member

    Willim James Bleeks--RAFVR-20/06/1942--Seagoe cem.
    Died on active service.

    [FONT=&quot]'Died on active service' means the person died as a result of non-operational circumstances - as a result of illness or road accident or such like.

    Regards
    Peter

    [/FONT]
     
  6. Peter Clare

    Peter Clare Very Senior Member

    Stephen George Kirkham-RAFVR-976 Balloon Sqd-30/04/1942-Heliopolis war Cem.

    Died on active service. See previous post.

    Regards
    Peter
     
  7. Peter Clare

    Peter Clare Very Senior Member

    George Fleck-207 Sqd. RAFVR-05/09/1942-Runnymede Memorial
    Wesley, I have changed the name to Fleck as listed in the CWGC list.

    4-5 September 1942

    207 Squadron
    Lancaster I R5755 EM-N
    Op. Bremen.

    Took off 0030 hrs Bottesford. Shot down by a night-fighter (Uffz Heinz Vinke, II./NJG2) and crashed 0250 hrs into the IJsselmeer east of Medemblik.

    BCL Vol.3 - W R. Chorley.

    ..........................................


    Bremen raid 4/5 September 1942

    251 aircraft - 98 Wellingtons, 76 Lancasters, 41 Halifaxes, 36 Stirlings. 12 aircraft - 7 Wellingtons, 3 Lancasters, 1 Halifax, 1 Stirling - lost, 4.8 per cent of the force.
    The Pathfinders introduced new techniques on this night, splitting their aircraft into 3 forces: 'illuminators', who lit up the area with white flares; 'visual markers', who dropped coloured flares if they had identified the aiming point; then 'backers-up', who dropped all-incendiary bomb loads on to the coloured flares. This basic pattern - illuminating, marking and backing-up - would form the basis of most future Pathfinder operations with proper target-indicator bombs and various electronic bombing aids being employed as they became available.
    The weather was clear and the Pathfinder plan worked well; heavy bombing of the target followed. Bremen confirms that this was a successful raid. Property was hit as follows:
    Destroyed Damaged Seriously Lightly Large/medium Industrial 6 6 50 Small Industrial 15 29 64 Dwelling Houses 460 1,361 7,592 Among the industrial buildings seriously hit were the Weser aircraft works and the Atlas shipyard. 4 dockside warehouses were destroyed and 3 oil-storage tanks were burnt out. Various public buildings together with 7 schools and 3 hospitals were hit. 124 people were killed and 470 injured.
     
  8. Wesley Wright

    Wesley Wright Member

    Thanks so much Peter and for explainations.
    Wesley Wright
     
  9. Chris Beith

    Chris Beith Junior Member

    I am researching all the men from my local area so their is quite a number of R.A.F MEN.
    Wesley Wright

    Hi Wesley, I am new to the site and am most interested in your comment that AC2 Cyril Cecil Whitley lived in your local area. My uncle F/O Owen Gerard Horrigan was the pilot of Whitley DY-H N1383 and I am hoping to contact the families of all of the crew and obtain, where possible photgraphs of them for the archives. I would very much appreciate any asistance that you can offer me in tracing the family of Cyril Whitley but it would be a good start to know where his home address was and what the local newspaper at the time was called.
    I am appealing to anyone on the site who may have any guidance when I say that my main interest is in tracing Sgt Vincent Herbert Barr. He alone survived as you can see from Thor's link to the Air War over Denmark website. He was a POW until 1945 when he returned to the UK. His mother's address was in Coventry (I have a letter from him to my grandmother written in September 1940 from Stalag Luft III which gives the full address). I have nothing further than this other than the list of POW camps he resided in (Stalag Luft I, III, VI, Stalag 357 Thorn, Stalag 357 Fallingbostel). The 102 squadron crew were based at Driffield but were transferred to RAF Kinloss for the start of the invasion of Scandinavia.
    Today is the 70th anniversary of the crash and will be marked by a ceremony at the crash site organised by the local Danish community who hold remembrance ceremonies at the Vadum graves three times a year supported by the Danish Air Force. The graves are immaculately tended by local representatives of the War Graves Commission. I would like to provide them with whatever details I can of the young men who lie there. The picture below shows the graves in 2008.

    http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/ab306/cbeith/iVedumcemetryRAFN1383crewOctober200.jpg

    With many thanks,

    Chris Beith
     
  10. Chris Beith

    Chris Beith Junior Member

    Hi, I am new to the site so hope I'm posting correctly! Tried before and had no response so am doing so again! I am most interested in Wesley Wright's comment that AC2 Cyril Cecil Whitley lived in his local area. My uncle F/O Owen Gerard Horrigan was the pilot of Cyril's Whitley bomber DY-H N1383 and I am hoping to contact the families of all of the crew and obtain, where possible photgraphs of them for the archives. I would very much appreciate any asistance that you, Wesley, can offer me in tracing the family of Cyril Whitley but it would be a good start to know where his home address was and what the local newspaper at the time was called.

    I am also appealing to anyone on the site who may have any guidance when I say that my main interest is in tracing Sgt Vincent Herbert Barr. He alone survived as you can see from Thor's link to the Air War over Denmark website. He was a POW until 1945 when he returned to the UK. His mother's address was in Coventry (I have a letter from him to my grandmother written in September 1940 from Stalag Luft III which gives the full address). I have nothing further than this other than the list of POW camps he resided in (Stalag Luft I, III, VI, Stalag 357 Thorn, Stalag 357 Fallingbostel). He was involved in an attempted escape from Stalag Luft 1. The 102 squadron crew were based at Driffield but were transferred to RAF Kinloss for the start of the invasion of Scandinavia.
    Today is the 70th anniversary of the crash and will be marked by a ceremony at the crash site organised by the local Danish community who hold remembrance ceremonies at the Vadum graves three times a year supported by the Danish Air Force. The graves are immaculately tended by local representatives of the War Graves Commission. I would like to provide them with whatever details I can of the young men who lie there. The picture below shows the graves in 2008.

    http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/a...October200.jpg

    With many thanks,

    Chris Beith
    Last edited by Chris Beith; 26-04-2010 at 03:13 PM.
     
  11. Padu

    Padu Junior Member

    Hello Spidge

    Some comments to Halifax HR906:
    The aircraft crashed at Beckdorf near Buxtehude, west from Hamburg.
    First the crew, except W.L.Breckell (POW), were buried on the cemetery in Stade
    called "Garnisons-Friedhof". Later, after the war, they were moved to Becklingen.
    The Halifax was shot down from the Flak, not from a nightfighter.

    Padu
     
  12. Lindele

    Lindele formerly HA96

  13. Tony H

    Tony H Junior Member

    Further info on Sgt Hillis as follows

    He was Flight Engineer on Halifax HX241 EY-P "Rothman P~Peter” that had departed Breighton at 2223 for Ops Nuremburg

    HX241 EY-P was one of three 78 Sqn aircraft lost on this operation. The others were; LK762 EY-Z and LV889 EY-Q

    Whilst on the outbound leg, it was intercepted by a Luftwaffe Night-Fighter captained by Hptm Fritz Radusch (VI/NJG6) and shot down for his 2nd Abschusse

    The aircraft crashed 1km S of Allendorf, near Bad Kissingen, Germany at 0107 with the loss of six of the seven man crew. The Mid Upper Gunner became a POW

    Tony
     
  14. Tony H

    Tony H Junior Member

    Further info on the other Bomber Command specific losses as follows;


    Sgt C.T. Lewis was a Wireless Operator / Air Gunner with 88 (Hong Kong) Sqn

    At 0700 on the morning of 07/06/40, the forward airfield of Moisy was struck by an enemy Air Raid. Sgt Lewis was killed when he ran into a rotating aircraft propeller as he attempted to take cover


    Sgt N.H. Crawford was the Navigator on 1654 HCU Stirling LK 517 that had departed Wigsley at 1400 for a cross-country NAVEX.

    During the flight the aircraft suffered catastrophic in-flight structural failure, broke up and crashed at West Thickley Farm between Midridge and Shildon, County Durham at 1650 with the loss of all seven crew

    A memorial plaque to the crew exists in a Shildon Social Club


    Sgt H.V. Hawkins was the Bomb Aimer on 467 Sqn Lancaster W5003 PO-H that had departed Bottesford for Ops Hamburg on 28/07/44

    It was intercepted at 5900M, above Wohrden, 6km SW of Heide by a Night-Fighter captained by Nacht-Jagd “Experten” Maj Gunther Radusch (Stab II/NJG2) and shot down at 0043 for his 32nd Abschusse

    Five of the crew were killed, two became POW


    WO J. Lilley was the Wireless Operator on 50 Sqn Lancaster LM264 VN- J that had departed Skellingthorpe at 1728 for Ops Calais on 24/09/44

    The cause of the loss is currently unknown

    All seven crew were killed, seven of which have no known grave and are therefore commemorated on the Runnymede Memorial, Surrey

    Tony
     

Share This Page