Royal Air Force War Grave Photos for Reference.

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  1. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    SERGEANT LESLIE RAYMOND UPPERTON
    Service Number: 1318579
    Regiment & Unit/Ship
    Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve

    Date of Death
    Died 08 April 1943

    Age 20 years old

    Buried or commemorated at
    TOTTENHAM CEMETERY

    Western Sec. Grave 220.

    United Kingdom
    • Country of ServiceUnited Kingdom
    • Additional InfoSon of Edwin Francis and Maud Upperton, of Harringay.

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  2. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    SERGEANT WILLIAM GORDON CHANT
    Service Number: 632414
    Regiment & Unit/Ship
    Royal Air Force

    Date of Death
    Died 27 September 1941

    Age 20 years old

    Buried or commemorated at
    TOTTENHAM CEMETERY

    Gen. Sec. Grave 10605.

    United Kingdom

    • Country of ServiceUnited Kingdom
    • Additional InfoSon of Mr. and Mrs. W. H. Chant, of Wood Green.
    • Personal InscriptionSWEET MEMORIES STILL BUT THEY HAVE LEFT AN ACHING VOID THE WORLD CAN NEVER FILL

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  3. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    UK, World War II Index to Allied Airmen Roll of Honour, 1939-1945
    Name: Leslie Raymond Upperton
    Rank: Sergeant
    Death Age: 20
    Birth Date: abt 1923
    Death Date: 8 Apr 1943
    Military Base: Swinderby, Lincs
    Service Number: 1318579
    Unit: 1654 Heavy Conversion Unit
    Command: Bomber Cmnd
    Ship: Lancaster I
    Occupation: Nav
    Casualty: Killed whilst flying
    Residence Place: Harringay, Middlesex
    Burial Place: Tottenham Cem, Middx
    Notes: Collided With Oxford Ab665 of 14 Pafu and Crashed At Burton Lazars Near Melton Mowbray, Leics During A Training Flight


    Name: William Gordon Chant
    Rank: Sergeant
    Death Age: 20
    Birth Date: abt 1921
    Death Date: 27 Sep 1941
    Military Base: Lossiemouth, Moray
    Service Number: 632414
    Unit: 20 Operational Training Unit
    Command: Bomber Cmnd
    Ship: Wellington Ic
    Occupation: Wop/Ag
    Casualty: Killed whilst flying
    Residence Place: Wood Green, Middlesex
    Burial Place: Tottenham Cem, Middx
    Notes: Collided With Stationary Wellington N2824 of 20 Otu When Landing At Lossiemouth During A Dual Instruction Flight, 1 of the Crew Survived
     
  4. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    SERGEANT John Charles Speechly
    Service Number: 1324131
    Regiment & Unit/Ship
    Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve

    115 Sqdn.

    Date of Death
    Died 05 February 1944

    Age 29 years old

    Buried or commemorated at
    ISLINGTON CEMETERY AND CREMATORIUM

    Sec. K. Block 3. Grave 21289P.

    United Kingdom
    • Country of ServiceUnited Kingdom
    • Additional InfoSon of John Alfred and Minnie Louisa Speechly, of Camberwell, London; husband of Elsie Speechly.

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  5. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    SERGEANT John Charles Speechly
    Service Number: 1324131
    Regiment & Unit/Ship
    Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve

    115 Sqdn.

    Date of Death
    Died 05 February 1944

    Age 29 years old

    Buried or commemorated at
    ISLINGTON CEMETERY AND CREMATORIUM

    Sec. K. Block 3. Grave 21289P.

    United Kingdom

    • Country of ServiceUnited Kingdom
    • Additional InfoSon of John Alfred and Minnie Louisa Speechly, of Camberwell, London; husband of Elsie Speechly.

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  6. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    UK, World War II Index to Allied Airmen Roll of Honour, 1939-1945
    Name: John Charles Speechly
    Rank: Sergeant
    Death Age: 29
    Birth Year: abt 1915
    Death Date: 5 Feb 1944
    Military Base: Witchford, Cambs
    Service Number: 1324131
    Unit: 115 Squadron
    Command: Bomber Cmnd
    Ship: Lancaster Ii
    Occupation: Air Basal Metabolic Rate
    Casualty: Killed whilst flying
    Residence Place: Camberwell, London
    Burial Place: Islington Cem & Crem, Middx
    Notes: Crashed At Great Dunmow 8 Miles Southwest of Braintree, Essex During A Night Bombing Exercise

    UK and Allied Countries, Index of International Bomber Command Losses, 1936-1966
    Name: John Charles Speechly
    Gender: Male
    Rank: Sgt
    Death Age: 29
    Birth Date: abt 1915
    Place of Origin: United Kingdom
    Service Branch: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
    Squadron Number: 1324131
    Unit: 115
    Trade: Air Bomber
    Death Date: 5 Feb 1944
    Burial Place: Islington Cemetery and Crematorium, United Kingdom
    Father:
    John Alfred Speechly
    Mother:
    Minnie Louisa Speechly
    Spouse:
    Elsie Speechly.
    Reference Number: 1324131 Speechly
    Speechly J - International Bomber Command Centre
     
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  7. RAFCommands

    RAFCommands Senior Member

    I despair over the corruption of primary sources as negligent secondary sources now compete with each other to fill databases with unchecked auto generated entries just to justify a new/improved/enhanced dataset.

    "Occupation: Air Basal Metabolic Rate"

    Lets see if we can cut these down by highlighting the erroneous content rather than reposting verbatim.

    Ross
     
  8. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    SERGEANT William Henry Allworth
    Service Number: 1259356
    Regiment & Unit/Ship
    Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve

    150 Sqdn.

    Date of Death
    Died 10 October 1942

    Age 20 years old

    Buried or commemorated at
    ST. PANCRAS CEMETERY

    Sec. 2 X. Grave 26.

    United Kingdom


    • Country of ServiceUnited Kingdom
    Additional InfoSon of Henry Hughes Allworth and Winifred Allworth, of Holloway London.

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  9. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

  10. RAFCommands

    RAFCommands Senior Member

    Your repost - what do you think is incorrect?

    Ross
     
  11. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Perhaps you need to direct your thoughts towards the people who transcribe the databases, for 15+ years I have altered, amended, corrected, revised whatever I have found to transcription error. They dont actually care, its about money, its about getting as much (in database terms) online as fast as possible and the management thoughts behind are - those nice people who pay money to subscribe to us will act as our editors and make the corrections as necessary

    Now I think if they need my help then there should be a 2 way deal


    I also need to add that for the record you have pointed out, then to the left is the phrase

    No record image

    So it would be difficult to read the original and work out what he was
     
  12. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    I dont have the knowledge so asked if it is correct re all the details on the site
    the site looks interesting and in depth so imagine the person who created it has good and caring knowledge
     
  13. RAFCommands

    RAFCommands Senior Member

    Clive - yes the info is correct - the original source was quoted and attributed by Col in this post

    Details for these Casualties: ex-pupils of Darlington Grammar School ?

    Chorley had taken the time and effort to resolve the error in the NAA database for Ziser for Wellington S 9086 (sic)
    https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/ListingReports/ItemsListing.aspx

    Tricky "for 15+ years I have altered, amended, corrected, revised whatever I have found to transcription error." I ask you to continue with this care.

    However this error jumps out as garbage - an auto generated corruption of ABmr - Air Bomber.. It's even clarified in your following cut and paste.

    Ross
     
  14. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Its a problem of having 18 - 20 year old people who have no clue of the wider world or history - they are used because they are cheap, so there are always going to be transcription errors and as they offer this specialist service for an exorbitant price they have to understand they get back what they put out

    This morning I was asked "Would I recommend 'X' genealogy site to a friend" my response for a scale of 0 -10 was a 1, then they asked "why did you give that score", - 'because thats the score I thought you deserved' this is what you are up against, they crash all this stuff out online, uploaded mainly I guess by very young adults, who really have no concept of what they are doing. If the rest of us continue to correct all their mistakes they will just rub their hands together and say 'thanks very much more profit to us', what a great site we have all the corrections have been made and it didnt cost us a cent, in fact they paid to make those corrections for us

    My fathers entry in the 1939 register has him as a male, yet someone transcribed his first name as Lillian, instead of William, his parents were born in the 1890's yet they transcribed his date of birth as 1878 instead of 1918
     
  15. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    FLIGHT LIEUTENANT WILLIAM GEORGE COUSINS
    Service Number: 89662
    Regiment & Unit/Ship
    Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve

    Date of Death
    Died 03 April 1945

    Age 52 years old

    Buried or commemorated at
    NAZEING (ALL SAINTS) CHURCHYARD

    South of church.

    United Kingdom
    • Country of ServiceUnited Kingdom
    • AwardsMilitary Medal
    • Additional InfoSon of George and Susan Cousins; husband of Lilian Emily Cousins, of Nazeing.
    • Personal InscriptionAT THE GOING DOWN OF THE SUN AND IN THE MORNING WE WILL REMEMBER THEM

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  16. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    Renewed
    AIRCRAFTMAN 1ST CLASS WALTER ERNEST JONES
    Service Number: 1445184
    Regiment & Unit/Ship
    Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve

    Date of Death
    Died 04 July 1944

    Age 40 years old

    Buried or commemorated at
    WALTHAMSTOW (ST. MARY) CHURCHYARD

    Grave 2752.

    United Kingdom


    • Country of ServiceUnited Kingdom
    • Additional InfoSon of William and Amy Jones of Walthamstow; husband of Dorothy Evelyn Jones, of Walthamstow.
    • Personal InscriptionTO LIVE IN THE HEARTS WE LEAVE BEHIND IS NOT TO DIE

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  17. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    CORPORALALBERT PENMAN GOWERS
    Service Number: 844507
    Regiment & Unit/Ship
    Royal Air Force (Auxiliary Air Force)

    907 Balloon Sqdn.

    Date of Death
    Died 20 December 1940

    Age 52 years old

    Buried or commemorated at
    ALDENHAM (ST. JOHN THE BAPTIST) CHURCHYARD

    Sec D. Row 11. Grave 3.

    United Kingdom


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  18. alieneyes

    alieneyes Senior Member

    Roll of Honour - Hertfordshire - Aldenham

    True name Alfred Pemberton Gowers.

    The ORB for No. 907 Balloon Squadron states "LAC Gowers died of injuries received 12/11/1940 at "A" Flight Headquarters"

    12 November 1940:
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    Regards,

    Dave
     
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  19. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    Still in a poor state 2022
    FLIGHT LIEUTENANT DONALD URQUHART LOWSON
    Service Number: 41306
    Regiment & Unit/Ship
    Royal Air Force

    102 Sqdn.

    Date of Death
    Died 07 July 1941

    Age 28 years old

    Buried or commemorated at
    HARROW (ST. MARY) LOWER CHURCHYARD

    United Kingdom


    • Country of ServiceUnited Kingdom
    • AwardsDistinguished Flying Cross
    • Additional InfoSon of John and Margaret Lowson: husband of Rita May Lowson, of Norbreck. Blackpool, Lancashire.


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  20. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    Reported but still weather worn

    AIRCRAFTMAN 2ND CLASS PHILLIP ALBERT MILLAR
    Service Number: 3204290
    Regiment & Unit/Ship
    Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve

    Date of Death
    Died 04 October 1946

    Age 18 years old

    Buried or commemorated at
    WILLESDEN NEW CEMETERY

    Sec. R. Grave 865.

    United Kingdom


    • Country of ServiceUnited Kingdom
    • Additional InfoSon of Philip Albert and Silby Millar, of Brook Green, London.
    • Personal InscriptionSAFE IN THE ARMS OF JESUS SWEETLY HIS SOUL SHALL REST

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