Richard III

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  1. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Hot air manufacturer

    Oh, I do, I've just come back from another physiotherapy session trying to remove a tongue permanently attached to my cheek.
     
  2. geoff501

    geoff501 Achtung Feind hört mit

    Oh, I do, I've just come back from another physiotherapy session trying to remove a tongue permanently attached to my cheek.

    The Channel 4 documentary is called 'The King In The Car Park', surely if the DNA tests etc. were negative it would be called 'Some Bloke We Found In A Car Park' ? :lol:
     
  3. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Hot air manufacturer

    I'll assume that this being a pre-XXth Cent. site it would have been a horse park before, so it would be natural if Richard III had some association to it.
     
  4. Andreas

    Andreas Working on two books

    He probably got killed while being stuck waiting for his serf to pay at the barrier.

    So the actual cry was 'my kingdom for someone with a parking ticket to insert into the reader so that I can exit!' No wonder Shakespeare shortened that.

    All the best

    Andreas
     
  5. geoff501

    geoff501 Achtung Feind hört mit

    I'll assume that this being a pre-XXth Cent. site it would have been a horse park before, so it would be natural if Richard III had some association to it.

    "A horse, a horse, my kingdom for a horse!"... is just another Tudor lie. He never actually said that.
     
  6. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Hot air manufacturer

    Se non è vero, è ben trovato :)
     
  7. TTH

    TTH Senior Member

    I think his real last words were "Ow!"
     
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  8. Owen

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    The skull of a king? — University of Leicester

    University releases world’s first image of the Grey Friars skull - potentially that of King Richard III – ahead of University’s major announcement
    BBC News - Richard III dig: Skull image released ahead of DNA results

    An image of a skull which it is thought could be that of Richard III has been released ahead of DNA test results.
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    Press conference at 10.00

    on BBCNews website.
    BBC News - News Conference: 'Richard III' DNA results revealed

    BBC - Radio Leicester - Home

    Richard III dig: 'R' marks the spot where skeleton found in Leicester car park | This is Leicestershire
    The latest astonishing twist in the extraordinary story of the search for Richard III can exclusively be revealed by the Leicester Mercury today.
    The spot where a skeleton was found in August was next to a car parking space marked with an "R"
     
  9. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Dem bones, dem bones, dem dry bones....
     

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  10. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Almost surprised as the hairs on the back of my neck stood up when the DNA woman confirmed it.

    An English King found, it would appear.
     
  11. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Bloody amazing watching that press conference.
     
  12. PsyWar.Org

    PsyWar.Org Archive monkey

    Well, well was't expecting that! Got quite emotional watching the press conference.
     
  13. plang876

    plang876 Worrier in the wasteland

    Got to agree. Quite fascinating - and it's good to see that Richard lll is being re evaluated in history as not so much the bad guy as he's been portrayed.
    Well done Leicester Uni (although I do think he should be re interred at York if that was his wish).
     
  14. Smudger Jnr

    Smudger Jnr Our Man in Berlin

    I caught this on BBC World Service and agreee that it was excellent viewing.
    Perhaps this will result in a rush of Historical facts regarding Richards Reign.

    Regards
    Tom
     
  15. phylo_roadking

    phylo_roadking Very Senior Member

    and it's good to see that Richard lll is being re evaluated in history as not so much the bad guy as he's been portrayed.

    ...as compared with...? ;)

    There was one very interesting historical one buried in all the detail this morning....

    All the chroniclers agreed for YEARS that Richard actually died bravely, fighting to the death, when he and his men charged Henry Tudor's party as it was observed in transit across part of the battlefield....

    ...but Richard seems to have died with his hands tied.

    Looks like all those somewhat "partial" chroniclers gave him a cleaner death than Henry did!!! :p
     
  16. Jedburgh22

    Jedburgh22 Very Senior Member

    Hmmmmm come the Funeral wonder if it will be the the Yorkshire Regiment or one of the Guards Regiments providing the escort - the news must have the Royal event planners in a spin . . . . .
     
  17. -tmm-

    -tmm- Senior Member

    Got to agree. Quite fascinating - and it's good to see that Richard lll is being re evaluated in history as not so much the bad guy as he's been portrayed.
    Well done Leicester Uni (although I do think he should be re interred at York if that was his wish).

    As much as I agree that history should be re-evaluated based on new findings, I sincerely hope it doesn't go to far. By all means present us with the evidence, but don't go to the other extreme and paint R3 as a heroic martyr and H7, the Tudors and Shakespeare as super villains. I can foresee plenty of pseudo historians taking this route to the detriment of actual history.

    Regardless, this mornings revelations were very exciting! :D
     
  18. TTH

    TTH Senior Member

    I have no great regard for Richard, but this is a tremendously exciting historical find nonetheless.
     
  19. phylo_roadking

    phylo_roadking Very Senior Member

    but don't go to the other extreme and paint R3 as a heroic martyr


    A bit late on that - several decades too late, actually! :D

    The REAL Richard!

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  20. Ron Goldstein

    Ron Goldstein WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Well, in four hours time we will know all about it.

    Richard III, King in the car park, at 21:00 hrs on Channel 4 this evening.

    Ron
     

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