Returning East Of Suez

Discussion in 'Postwar' started by Charley Fortnum, Dec 30, 2018.

  1. Charley Fortnum

    Charley Fortnum Dreaming of Red Eagles

    I preferred his documentary on Northern Soul. Joking aside, it was really good.

    Which is to say, that article is political flak from a socialist and contains little in the way of geo-political or military insight. You could sum it all up with the sentence: we should be focusing on Russia and terrorism closer to home and not large conventional forces overseas. That's fine as it goes, but it doesn't really go far.
     
  2. Charley Fortnum

    Charley Fortnum Dreaming of Red Eagles

    The Chinese certainly won't like it. Three days after Beijing warned Taiwan that moves to formal independence were 'a dead end' and that reintergration with the mainland were 'inevitable', the Taiwanese President has welcomed the propspect of further British involvement and a base in the region.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.te...s-international-support-defend-democracy/amp/

    Meanwhile, this CNN analysis envisages such a base as an attractive arms showroom.

    https://edition-m.cnn.com/2019/01/03/asia/britain-military-bases-asia-intl/index.html?r=https://www.google.com/
     
  3. davidbfpo

    davidbfpo Active Member

    Charley,

    The President of Taiwan does not actually say she would welcome a UK base. The Daily Telegraph article has a passage: 'Asked by the Sunday Telegraph if she would support a British presence there, President Tsai signalled that Taiwan would welcome “any actions that will be helpful towards maintaining peace in the South China Sea, as well as maintaining freedom of passage.'

    Yes I am sure UK plc, better known as British Aerospace plc, would appreciate a base to display our wares. One should note that our exports of defence equipment to India and South-East Asia are negligible. The only recent sale CNN cites is UK-designed frigates being built in Australia.
     
  4. davidbfpo

    davidbfpo Active Member

  5. Harry Ree

    Harry Ree Very Senior Member

    Yes I am sure UK plc, better known as British Aerospace plc, would appreciate a base to display our wares. One should note that our exports of defence equipment to India and South-East Asia are negligible. The only recent sale CNN cites is UK-designed frigates being built in Australia.[/QUOTE]

    A few days ago there was a CNN article which pointed out the underlying motivation was this, quoting the UK labour force employment sector which depend on UK defence contracts and above all,foreign arms contracts.

    Apparently the UK is in the Premier League when assessed for its arms manufacturing output.

    Unfortunately I have searched CNN for a link but I have been unable to find it.
     
  6. davidbfpo

    davidbfpo Active Member

    A few days ago there was a CNN article which pointed out the underlying motivation was this, quoting the UK labour force employment sector which depend on UK defence contracts and above all,foreign arms contracts.

    Apparently the UK is in the Premier League when assessed for its arms manufacturing output.

    Unfortunately I have searched CNN for a link but I have been unable to find it.[/QUOTE]
     
  7. davidbfpo

    davidbfpo Active Member

    Harry,
    I spotted a CNN article which stated: '
    In 2017, Britain posted $11.3 billion in overseas military sales, according to the Defense Ministry. While this represented just 2.6% of the UK's overall goods exported, the sales were of big-ticket items that provide well-paying manufacturing jobs.
    One of every 200 British jobs was defense-related in 2015/16, the Defense Ministry says.'
    See: A British military base on the South China Sea is not a far-fetched idea - CNN
     
  8. Charley Fortnum

    Charley Fortnum Dreaming of Red Eagles

    Harry, it's linked in my post above!
     
  9. Harry Ree

    Harry Ree Very Senior Member

  10. davidbfpo

    davidbfpo Active Member

    Ho hum that will teach us both!:)
     
  11. Harry Ree

    Harry Ree Very Senior Member

    I hasten to add that any bases in South East area in what what are the US sphere of influence,now probably a scene of future political strife with the Chinese, the UK will be playing second fiddle.

    Interesting as regards post war Japan,the US occupied Japan and also took territory for military bases in the former Nippon empire.The UK although a partner in the Pacific war was excluded from any influence in postwar Japan.

    As regards economics and industry, the US had the sole power to restore Japan to an industrial nation.Before the war,the Japanese electricity system was based on the British-European 50 Hertz system which meant that any new projects would be based on the British-European system.Present manufacturers are flexible in that they offer 50 and 60 Hertz capability.

    Through US influence, the 60 Hertz electricity system was established in Japan which was accompanied by a US lead in trade at the expense of other industrial exporters.As a result Japan must be one of the few industrial nations to have a 50 Hertz (Eastern Grid) system and a 60 Hertz (Western Grid) system connected together with three frequency converters which limits the flexibility of power transfer to and fro the two systems to 1000 MWs.

    Economic global influence of the past....a good indication of past political /economic/trade influence is the country's electrical system.............. ......British-European at 50 Hertz,the US at 60 Hertz..interesting to view the countries making up the division.
     

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