Researching Quartermaster Sergeant Percy Charles Thompson, 2 Essex Regt, d 1912

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  1. vespa100

    vespa100 Member

    Hi everyone I will remove post if I am breaking the rules, I am trying to research a gentleman by the name of Percy Charles Thompson of the 2nd Battalion Essex regiment, he was quartermaster sergeant and died in 1912
    thanks for reading
     
  2. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Well-Known Member

    UK, Army Registers of Soldiers' Effects, 1901-1929
    Name: Percy Charles Thompson
    Gender: Male
    Death Date: 23 Jul 1912
    Rank: Or Me Sgt Someone cannot transcribe properly
    Regiment: 2nd Essex
    Regimental Number: 4086
    See image attached


    Your title says Thomspson - it should only have 1 x 's'

    Web: Global, Gravestone Photograph Index, 1265-2014
    Name: Percy Charles Thompson
    Birth Year: 1876
    Burial Year: 1912
    Burial Place: Ipswich, Suffolk, England
    Death Age: 36
    Cemetery: Old Municipal Section H
    Notes: QM Serg. 2nd Batt. The Essex Regiment.
    Original URL: http://www.gravestonephotos.co...

    England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
    Name: Percy C Thompson
    Estimated birth year: abt 1876
    Registration Year: 1912
    Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
    Age at Death: 36
    Registration district: Ipswich
    Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
    Inferred County: Suffolk
    Volume: 4a
    Page: 879

    England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915
    Name: Percy Charles Thompson
    Registration Year: 1876
    Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
    Registration district: Ipswich
    Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
    Inferred County: Suffolk
    Volume: 4a
    Page: 680

    There are several family trees on Ancestry for him
    Percy Charles Thompson
    1876–1912

    BIRTH ABT. 1876 • Ipswich, Suffolk, England
    DEATH 23 JUL 1912 • Suffolk, United Kingdom

    Seems in 1911 he was based in Ireland:
    Name: Percy Charles Thompson
    Relation to Head: Head
    Residence Date: 2 Apr 1911
    Townland/Street: Curragh Military Camp
    District: Kildare
    County: Kildare
    Household Members:
    Name Age
    Percy Charles Thompson
    Sarah Jane Thompson 40
    URL: http://www.census.nationalarch...


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  3. vespa100

    vespa100 Member

    Thanks for your hard work Tricky I have changed the title, you have found some great information
     
  4. vespa100

    vespa100 Member

    54360287-5460-4E4C-B46A-9F8199F2C7B7.jpeg This is a photo of the gentleman I am looking into
     
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  5. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Well-Known Member

    Looking at the photo I have taken a guess that he has a Boer War medal on his chest - this MIGHT be him

    UK, Military Campaign Medal and Award Rolls, 1793-1949
    Name: P Thompson
    Service Date: 1899-1902
    Service Place: South Africa
    Campaign or Service: South Africa - Second Boer War
    Regiment or Unit Name: 2nd Battalion Essex
    Regimental Number: 4086

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    TD
     
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  6. vespa100

    vespa100 Member

    Thanks again Tricky great information
     
  7. bamboo43

    bamboo43 Very Senior Member

    Just to clarify, the medal on Percy's chest is the Queen's South Africa medal for the Boer War, showing four clasps which matches the information on the medal rolls posted by TD. Great photo by the way.
     
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  8. bamboo43

    bamboo43 Very Senior Member

    I found another 2/Essex Roll, this is from May 1902. No new info though.

    2 Essex Rolls 2.jpg
     
  9. vespa100

    vespa100 Member

    Cheers Bomboo thanks for the medal information, you are right about the photo I have more of the gentlemans funnel where the streets are line with hundreds of people, he must have been a very well to do gentleman.
     
  10. KevinBattle

    KevinBattle Senior Member Patron

    Ah! funeral!
    Any chance you might contact Ipswich newspaper archives for July/August 1912?
    Or Suffolk Records Office?
    If his funeral was that well attended, there's likely to be a newspaper report.

    Just out of curiosity, I checked to see if any Thompson were WW1 casualties from Ipswich
    Private. THOMPSON, STANLEY MORRIS. Service Number 201191. Died 20/07/1916. Aged 19
    4th Bn. Suffolk Regiment
    Son of Morris and Annie Thompson, of 20, Bulstrode Rd., Ipswich.

    Private. THOMPSON, ALBERT. Service Number 473013. Died 10/10/1918. Aged 23
    1st East Anglian Field Amb. Royal Army Medical Corps
    Son of the late Arthur Thompson, of Long St., Ipswich
    Now how strange would it be if that was a relative, on 10th October 2017?
     
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  11. vespa100

    vespa100 Member

    238DE29A-45BB-4247-B4B3-7635BE068F46.jpeg

    I also have a newspaper cutting showing the photo I have, I found these in a carboot sale in Liverpool
     
  12. vespa100

    vespa100 Member

    Great information Kevin thanks for looking
     
  13. KevinBattle

    KevinBattle Senior Member Patron

    So you have just the photo or more details in the clipping?
    TD in post #2 mentioned that in 1911 there was a 40 year old Sarah Jane Thompson living with him in The Curragh.
    It would seem more likely to be his wife, albeit a few years older (second marriage for her?) rather than a sister, in barracks.
    It obviously meant a lot to someone and if they have just surfaced in Liverpool, perhaps their child, kept these through the years until recently passing away and the contents turning up at a boot sale.
    Have to say a rather sad end for a fine looking soldier, with 4 Boer War clasps.

    Nice of you to save them, even if surviving family(?) haven't.
     
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  14. vespa100

    vespa100 Member

    0AAAE3C5-47E8-446E-896F-69F94D2420A2.jpeg Hi Kevin I have photos of the funeral plus this photo that I think it’s my gentleman standing behind a bar
     
  15. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Well-Known Member

    Bamboo
    The other Roll you found is also on Ancestry but I left it off as it doesn't provide any further enlightening information

    Kevin
    Yes I would say the woman on the 1911 Irish census in The Curragh was his wife

    Vespa
    The photo above of your man at his funeral - he looks quite good for a corpse :lol:

    TD
     
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  16. bamboo43

    bamboo43 Very Senior Member

    Thanks TD. I've got several pdf versions of QSA medal rolls on my computer, it made a change to actually have an image for a forum members enquiry. I was also trying to come up with an image of a QSA medal with the four clasps, but this was the best I could do (clasps only).

    34.jpg
     
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  17. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Well-Known Member

    Nice one Squire

    TD
     
  18. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Well-Known Member

    Sarah Jane was his wife
    National Archives: Census of Ireland 1911

    Residents of a house 12 in Curragh Military Camp (Kildare, Kildare)

    Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion
    Thompson Percy Charles - - Head of Family -
    Thompson Sarah Jane 40 Female Wife

    It seems they had be married at the time of the Census for less than 1 year
    (See document below)


    In fact there were quite a few Thompsons in the area and probably the Regiment


    Surname Forename Townland/Street DED County Age Sex
    Thompson J Military Barrack Kildare Kildare 28 M
    Thompson Elizabeth Military Barrack Kildare Kildare 30 F
    Thompson A E Military Barrack Kildare Kildare 18 M
    Thompson William Alfred Military Barrack Kildare Kildare 27 M
    Thompson W Military Barrack Kildare Kildare 22 M
    Thompson Sarah Jane Curragh Military Camp Kildare Kildare 40 F
    Thompson Percy Charles Curragh Military Camp Kildare Kildare


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  19. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Well-Known Member

    Ooooooops - from Wiki
    Curragh Camp - Wikipedia
    The problem of sexually transmitted diseases due to the prevalence of prostitution and men willing to partake in their services can be seen by the numbers reporting with gonorrhea in the military hospital in the 1911 Census

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  20. vespa100

    vespa100 Member

    Great article to read thanks Tricky, the photo with the gentleman standing behind the bar is the place in this photo i think as this came with the collection. IMG_20171008_0001.jpg
     

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