Remembering Today 21/9/44 Corporal:J.J.Karmy,5950118,5th Bn. Bedfordshire and Hertfordshire Regiment

Corporal KARMY, JOHN JOSEPH
Service Number 5950118

Died 21/09/1944

Aged 23

5th Bn.
Bedfordshire and Hertfordshire Regiment

Son of S. S. and Rosa Karmy, of Milton, Southsea, Hampshire.
Casualty

 

The Evening News, Tuesday, July 11, 1944


The Bedfordshire Times, Friday, 7 December, 1945

 

Died when the Hofuku Maru was sunk.
Hofuku Maru

K

 

He died on the Hofuku Maru on the 21st September 1944 when the vessel was sunk following an attack by US carrier borne aircraft( see the thread of that name.) ( My uncle also died.)
He was a jeweller. The Bureau of Record and Enquiry roll states he was sent to Thailand in October 1942, to work on the railway, returning to Singapore in May or June 1944.

RIP.

 

from the newspaper cutting
He is Remembered on the Harrold War Memorial,Bedfordshire
PrivateBAMBRIDGE, ALBERT STANLEY
Service Number 5950134

Died 21/09/1944

Aged 23

5th Bn.
Bedfordshire and Hertfordshire Regiment

Son of Walter and Jane Annie Bambridge, of Harrold, Bedfordshire.

 

Pte. Albert Bambridge's IJA card. He was a butcher in civilian life.

RIP

 

..... meanwhile, back to John Joseph Karmy as per initial post....
J J's father, Seraphin, appears to have died in 1955 and Rosa in 1943.
TD may find more, as it is a very unusual surname, and J J is the only Karmy in CWGC records, presumably Rosa died of natural causes, not enemy activity.

On the Bedford Bunyan Meeting Place Roll of Honour Roll of Honour - Bedfordshire - Bedford, Bunyan Meeting House

 

The casualty list of 5th Beds & Herts that died on the 21st September 1944.
'Cap Badge' R.H. Medley

 

PrivateHALL, REGINALD WILLIAM
Service Number 5950230

Died 21/09/1944

Aged 30

5th Bn.
Bedfordshire and Hertfordshire Regiment

Son of Mr. and Mrs. Herbert Hall, of Moggerhanger, Bedfordshire.

 

PrivateJARVIS, ROBERT
Service Number 5956643

Died 21/09/1944

Aged 32

5th Bn.
Bedfordshire and Hertfordshire Regiment

Son of James and Louisa Jarvis; husband of Nora Jarvis, of Pirton, Hertfordshire.

 

Lance CorporalNORMAN, GERALD HERBERT
Service Number 5952006

Died 21/09/1944

Aged 24

5th Bn.
Bedfordshire and Hertfordshire Regiment

Son of Mr. and Mrs. John Benjamin Norman, of Boreham Wood, Hertfordshire.

 

PrivateWILLEY, STANLEY
Service Number 5953196

Died 21/09/1944

Aged 24

5th Bn.
Bedfordshire and Hertfordshire Regiment

Son of Mr. and Mrs. Alfred Willey, of Olney, Buckinghamshire.

 

PrivateWHITE, DOUGLAS JOSEPH
Service Number 5831312

Died 21/09/1944

Aged 28

2nd Bn.
Cambridgeshire Regiment

Son of Joseph and Jessie White, of Letchworth, Hertfordshire.

 

CL1, thanks for adding the pictures of the memorials.

Guy, thank you for the list.. Some died due to the dreadful conditions before the sinking and were buried in the waters off Manila, wrapped in a shroud with a lump of bauxite to weight it down. The first name on the list of Pte Leslie Angell is particularly poignant because he survived the sinking but was killed on board a fishing vessel the following day when there was a further attack by US fighters.

I met a survivor in the 1980's, an absolutely charming man, who would do anything he could for anybody else. He worked at a garage serving fuel and would check oil, water, tyres, without any expectation of a tip or asking for one. He served with one of the Cambridgeshire battalions. 2 Cambs suffered the most casualties.

It's hard to explain but they were a different breed. They suffered terribly after the war, mostly in silence, and many died far too early due to the malnutrition they had endured.

 

PrivateANGELL, LESLIE VICTOR
Service Number 5951842

Died 21/09/1944

Aged 25

5th Bn.
Bedfordshire and Hertfordshire Regiment

Son of Mr. and Mrs. Percy Angell.

 

CL1 - on your post for

PrivateWILLEY, STANLEY
Service Number 5953196
Died 21/09/1944

I can only see a George Willey on the memorial ?? did he have Stanley as another forename?

TD

 

sorry wrong panel now changed

 

Was George a brother perhaps??

I note in Guys list he is Wiley, and the memorial he is Willey

TD

 

My maternal Grandfather would probably have known these men. He was in the 5th Bn but was taken ill prior to embarkation & was discharged soon after.

 

This is the full list of B&H on the Hofuku Maru:
Surname: First Name(s): Rank: Occupation: Service No: Company:
ANGELL Leslie Victor. Private. Printer. 5951842. B
BAMBRIDGE Albert Stanley. Private. Butcher. 5950134. B
BARKER Gordon Leslie. Private. Newsagent. 5951831. B
BURGESS Arthur William. Sergeant Monumental Major. 5949044. HQ-M.T.
BURNS Thomas Arthur. Private. Wood Turner. 5952179. HQ-4 Plt
CALLEWAERT Albert Louis. Private. Newspaper shop assistant. 5951972. D
CATO Frederick George Bert. Private. Lead Burner. 5952182. HQ-5 (Pioneer) Plt
CATTERALL Albert. Private. Machinery Builder. 5956862. HQ-3 Plt
CATTERALL John. Private. Not Translated. 5952645. C
CAWTHORNE Maurice. Private. Machinist. 5952722. HQ -1 Plt
CHAMBERLAIN Ernest John. Private. Plumber. 5955761. HQ-6a-Plt
CHORLTON Geoffrey. Sidney Private Engineer. 5955225. HQ-4 Plt
CLARKE John. Herbert. Private. Plumber. 5953024. HQ-2 Plt
COX Robert Henry. Private. Compositor. 5953032. HQ-2 Plt
CRAWLEY Albert Edward. Private. Felt Hat Worker. 5951900. D
DIMMOCK John Frederick. Private. Store man. 5950551. B
DINES Albert Edward. Private. Stonemason. 5955494. HQ-5 (Pioneer) Plt
EDWARDS Frank Walter. Private. Photographic shop assistant. 5953045. D
EMERTON Herbert Private. Printer. 5951983. A
EVANS Stanley. Private. Butcher. 5951363. D
FOORD Ian Roy. Private. Gardener. 5950532. B
GAYLER Edward Frederick. Corporal. Gas Fitter.5951112. HQ-5 (Pioneer) Plt
GILFILLAN Albert. Private. Labourer. 5950591. B
HADDON Edward Walter. Private. Sawyers Assistant. 5949316. HQ-6a-Plt (Cook Class II)
HALL Reginald William. Private. Horticulturalist. 5950230. A
HAND Walter Frederick William. Private. Malt Extract Man. 5956299. D
HANLON Patrick. Private. Hosiery Presser.5950453. B
HAYES John George. Private. Hair Dresser. 5952927. HQ-5 (Pioneer) Plt
HAYNES Frederick. Private. Photographer. 5953076. HQ-3 Plt
HAYWARD George Henry. Private. Not Translated. 5950564. B
HEALY Thomas Francis. Private. Not Translated. 5949809. D
HIGH Harold Wiiliam Private. Butchers Assistant. 5951830. B
HORNETT James. Corporal. Nursery Worker. 5951995. B
INGRAM Robert Walter. Private. Nursery Worker. 5949245. B
IVES Raymond Henry. Private. Goods Checker. 5955606. A
JACKMAN Harry. Private. Mixer Driver. 5953092. HQ-6 plt-M.T.
JARVIS Robert. Private. Insurance Agent. 5956643. HQ-4 Plt
JOHNSON Arthur Charles. Lance Sergeant Ware-houseman. 5952942. D
KARMY John Joseph. Corporal. Jeweller. 5950118. D
KEMPSTER Charles. Private. Not Translated. 5956310. HQ-5 (Pioneer) Plt
LAWRENCE Gordon. Private. Railway Porter. 5951726. HQ-3 Plt
LAWRENCE Ronald Charles. Private. Gardener. 5952003. SB (Stretcher bearer)
LEACH William Leslie. Private Railway Worker. 5955631. D
LEMMON Douglas James William. Private. Corner Shop Assistant. 5955634. HQ-2 Plt
LOWERY Cyril. Private. Milk Rounds-man. 5956652.A
MACDONALD Alistair Charles. Private. Labourer. 5951396. A
MAYNE Frank Private. Confectioner. 5942925. HQ-6a-Plt (Sgts Mess)
McCUE Bernard. Private. Builder. 5951754. B
NORMAN Gerald Herbert. Lance Corporal Shop Assistant. 5952006. HQ-4 Plt
NUGENT Edward. Private Compositor. 5953125. A
ODELL Eric George. Corporal. Engineer . 5949716. D
O'MAHONEY James P. Private. Chaplin / Hotel Porter. 5951400. D
PEASNALL William Wickham Frederick. Private. Tin plate shop worker. 5951403. D
PERRY Malcolm Alan. Private. Carpenter. 5950095. HQ-5 (Pioneer) Plt
PLUM Albert George Horace James. Private. Not Translated. 5950318. HQ-5 (Pioneer) Plt
PRIOR Joseph George. Private. Golfer. 5950196. HQ-4 Plt
RABONE Thomas William. Private. Groom. 5956692. A
RICHARDSON William Denis. Private. Tobacconists. 5952012. D
SINGLETON Tom. Private. Not Translated. 5952632. B
SULLIVAN Thomas Albert. Private. Copper craftsman. 5951056. B
WELHAM Robert Ernest. Sergeant. Not Translated. 5946692. HQ-3 Plt
WILLEY Stanley. Private. Carpenter and Joiner. 5953196. HQ-5 (Pioneer) Plt
WILTON Lawrence. Corporal. Window Dresser. 5951422. D
WINSTANLEY James. Sergeant. Not Translated. 5949700. HQ-4 Plt
WRIGHT William George. Sergeant. Telephone Linesman. 5946307. A