Remembering Today. 13th August 1942 The loss of Liberator LV341 Z/120

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  1. Peter Clare

    Peter Clare Very Senior Member

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    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

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    dbf Moderatrix MOD

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  4. Deacs

    Deacs Well i am from Cumbria. Patron

    Remembering :poppy:
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  5. Deacs

    Deacs Well i am from Cumbria. Patron

    Some pages from F/S. Alfred Burton Craig R/50369 RCAF. Navigator service records.
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    Deacs Well i am from Cumbria. Patron

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  7. Peter Clare

    Peter Clare Very Senior Member

    I have the court of inquiry report re the loss of my fathers aircraft. It does state that Archer 'inadvertently! Operated the master ignition switches. The problem being that LV341 was an American lend lease aircraft and the switch position was opposite to UK built aircraft - up was on down was off Archer probably got confused over the switch position. When the surviving crew returned to the Squadron after survivors leave no one on the station (Ballykelly) would fly with Archer. He was transferred and was shot down over the Bay of Biscay the following year, losing his life.
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  8. KevinBattle

    KevinBattle Senior Member

    I notice that Craig showed his date of birth as 26 July 1918 when enlisting in 1938 with the New Brunswick Rangers, and his true date of birth as 26 July 1920 when enlisting in RCAF in 1940.

    Accidents do happen, and there are many instances of air accidents caused by switches in one model of the same aircraft operating in the reverse way on a later or different batch. Some were even positioned behind the pilot, so could only be found by touch, through flying gloves. (Blenheims?) or for example, French aircraft taken over having throttles that worked in the opposite direction to British ordered aircraft. We all make mistakes, but this was a catastrophic one, being able to instantly cut power to all 4 engines.... why would anyone NEED a master switch to do that when flying?
  9. Peter Clare

    Peter Clare Very Senior Member

    The engine master switch on a Liberator was made up of four individual switches, one for each engine. A bar was positioned above these switches which when 'thrown' would operate all switches at the same time. After the loss of LV341 it was recommended that a guard be fixed over the switches to avoid a repeat of the incident. These switches were positioned alongside the second pilots seat and it was possible that they could be knocked accidentally. One report that I have suggests that the second pilot was exiting his seat to relieve himself when he did just that, we will never know what did actually happen.
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