Recce Photo ID - 3rd Division?

Discussion in 'Recce' started by Paul Reed, Sep 8, 2009.

  1. Smudger Jnr

    Smudger Jnr Our Man in Berlin

    Only photos of Dad are posted on my page, but not much help I am afraid.

    Regards
    Tom
     
  2. Richard Lewis

    Richard Lewis Member

    Yes, this is 3rd Reconnaissance Regt (NF). Attached is a picture of the officers, taken, I presume, on the same day. My late father (Lt WL Lewis) is 3rd row, 4th from right (in dark shirt). CO was Lt Col HH Merriman, DSO MC TD (front row, no gaiters).

    No idea where picture was taken, UK or Continent (can any architectural experts pinpoint the building?). Regiment was stationed at Langholm, Dumfriesshire at beginning of 1944 before embarking for Normandy in June 1944 . Group is flanked by two 6-pdr anti-tank guns.

    Regards,

    Richard.
     

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  3. At Home Dad (Returning)

    At Home Dad (Returning) Well-Known Member

    Welcome to the forum! Great opening post!

    Cheers for the photo


    I was thinking the same thing when I looked at Pauls post.
    There are two broken windows above the doors, but that
    is it, re damage.

    Germany, 1945, where could it be
     
  4. Smudger Jnr

    Smudger Jnr Our Man in Berlin

    Richard,

    Hello and welcome to the forum.

    Thank you for the confirmation, Paul will be very pleased indeed.

    Regards
    Tom
     
  5. Richard Lewis

    Richard Lewis Member

    In the Regimental history the last locations mentioned (on 26 Apr 45) before the ceasefire were:
    RHQ & C Sqn - School at Varel
    A Sqn - Hutching
    B Sqn - Iprump

    Regards,

    Richard

    PS Damage to the windows of the building may not be a sign of battle damage. Boozy nights in the mess can have the same effect!
     
  6. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Photo has to be post-war as the Other Ranks are wearing collars & ties.
    I'm sure they didn't do that with BD until after the war.
    Also the fact they have ribbons up for France & Germany Star dates it to post-May 1945.
     
  7. Richard Lewis

    Richard Lewis Member

    Could be the 1939-43 Star (later 1939-45) which was awarded from 1944 onwards.

    Regards,
    Richard
     
  8. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Richard,
    look at chaps in Paul's posts #2 , 10 + 15, they wear the 39-45 Star & France Germany Star ribbon too.
     
  9. Paul Reed

    Paul Reed Ubique

    [FONT=&quot]Yes, this is 3rd Reconnaissance Regt (NF). Attached is a picture of the officers, taken, I presume, on the same day. My late father (Lt WL Lewis) is 3rd row, 4th from right (in dark shirt). CO was Lt Col HH Merriman, DSO MC TD (front row, no gaiters).[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]No idea where picture was taken, UK or Continent (can any architectural experts pinpoint the building?). Regiment was stationed at Langholm, Dumfriesshire at beginning of 1944 before embarking for Normandy in June 1944 . Group is flanked by two 6-pdr anti-tank guns.[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]Regards,[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Richard[/FONT]

    That's excellent to have it confirmed. Thanks for posting that photo. Personally I think this is taken in Germany. On my original I can see a German word through the broken upper window but can't quite make it out.

    Don't suppose you have a full key of the names?

    Any other photos of 3rd Recce?
     
  10. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    On my original I can see a German word through the broken upper window but can't quite make it out.


    Paul I tried zooming in to see, but can't be certain ... it does look like 2 words, possibly the ending of 'hotel' and the beginning of a name, but the second word has too many possible permutations in the gothic font for me to even hazard a guess. Is there a chance of a higer res of this area?
     
  11. Recce_Mitch

    Recce_Mitch Very Senior Member

    Richard welcome to the forum.

    Cheers
    Paul
     
  12. Smudger Jnr

    Smudger Jnr Our Man in Berlin

    Paul I tried zooming in to see, but can't be certain ... it does look like 2 words, possibly the ending of 'hotel' and the beginning of a name, but the second word has too many possible permutations in the gothic font for me to even hazard a guess. Is there a chance of a higer res of this area?

    Diane,

    I too zoomed the photo up 400% and still could not make out the letters and on calling Anja to have a look she could not hazard a guess also.

    My thoughts were a Hotel, but I haver been wrong on many occassions before :D

    Regards
    Tom
     
  13. sapper

    sapper WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Third Div?Certainly is... Mine!
    Sapper
     
  14. Paul Reed

    Paul Reed Ubique

    I will re-scan when I am back at my desktop.
     
  15. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Just noticed the 6-pounder has different tyres :)
     
  16. Richard Lewis

    Richard Lewis Member

    I see what you mean, Owen, about the medals. I saw that my father was not wearing any ribbons and so thought that picture was 1943/4. So…why wasn’t he wearing his medal ribbons?

    As for the German sign in Paul’s picture I’ve fiddled tried to enhance it and come up with this:
    Lettering.jpg

    Don’t know if it helps. Seems clearer to me when I’m on the other side of the room to the screen!
    Unfortunately, no more pictures of 3 Recce (have you any more of the group photos, Paul?) and no key to the picture of the officers. However attached are the nominal rolls from ‘History of 3rd Reconnaissance Regt. (N.F.) in the invasion and subsequent campaign in North West Europe 1944-1945’.
     

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  17. Paul Reed

    Paul Reed Ubique

    Close up of the wording.

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  18. Paul Reed

    Paul Reed Ubique

    [FONT=&quot][/FONT][FONT=&quot]
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    [FONT=&quot]Don’t know if it helps. Seems clearer to me when I’m on the other side of the room to the screen![/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Unfortunately, no more pictures of 3 Recce (have you any more of the group photos, Paul?) and no key to the picture of the officers. However attached are the nominal rolls from ‘History of 3rd Reconnaissance Regt. (N.F.) in the invasion and subsequent campaign in North West Europe 1944-1945’.[/FONT]


    Hi Richard - thanks for that.

    Re

    [FONT=&quot]‘History of 3rd Reconnaissance Regt. (N.F.) in the invasion and subsequent campaign in North West Europe 1944-1945’.[/FONT]

    Is this a published history of the unit? Have you scanned or transcribed it?
     
  19. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    Sorry, looking at the new scans my original thoughts are most likely wrong: now it looks like 'iel' and not 'tel'. Hope Kate can make something of it.
     
  20. Heimbrent

    Heimbrent Well-Known Member

    Sorry, not really. I tend to '-iel' as well, but there's really too much missing - maybe the two guys can step aside a little?
    Are there any other pictures that offer a different angle?
     

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