RAF Service record query WW2

Discussion in 'The War In The Air' started by johnsonsyard, Sep 9, 2011.

  1. johnsonsyard

    johnsonsyard Member

    Can anyone help ? Does the date in the "Date of movement " column in the service record inicate when the movement actually happened or when the instruction for the movement was made ? EG DOM 17/11/45 3 Release Emarkation Centre , Worli Bombay , so did they leave for Worli on that day or merely receive the Air Movement Authority Form on that date with a view to the order being carried out shortly afterwards. ?

    Would appreciate any help with this.

    Many Thanks

    Nick
     
  2. RAFCommands

    RAFCommands Senior Member

    In the Last Goon Show there is a line:

    Eccles: Everybody's got to be somewhere!

    This is the case for the RAF movements. For accounting purposes both of men and equipment they must always have an owner.

    The date of movement is the physical date and time that they moved off one paper list onto another.

    It could take several days before they reported at the new location or left the old one but it was clearly defined by the movement order whose odd bods they were.

    It is also the case that the transfer is for admin only and no physical movement to the new unit/location takes place. For example some men were transferred to RAF Depot, NE. They did not move from the original unit but had been subject to a paper transfer to RAF Depot, Uxbridge, as Non-Effective/Sick. Once recovered and fit for duty they are paper transferred back to the original unit having never moved.

    Regards
    Ross
     
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  3. Ron Goldstein

    Ron Goldstein WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran Patron

    Nick

    As an Army type (as opposed to a RAF type) I believe that in some areas the records were kept similarly.

    When I was posted overseas I found myself allocated a Draft number of REAYK some time before the actual sailing with two separate locations and units involved before I was actually aboard ship and on my way.

    Ron
     
  4. johnsonsyard

    johnsonsyard Member

    In the Last Goon Show there is a line:

    Eccles: Everybody's got to be somewhere!

    This is the case for the RAF movements. For accounting purposes both of men and equipment they must always have an owner.

    The date of movement is the physical date and time that they moved off one paper list onto another.

    It could take several days before they reported at the new location or left the old one but it was clearly defined by the movement order whose odd bods they were.

    It is also the case that the transfer is for admin only and no physical movement to the new unit/location takes place. For example some men were transferred to RAF Depot, NE. They did not move from the original unit but had been subject to a paper transfer to RAF Depot, Uxbridge, as Non-Effective/Sick. Once recovered and fit for duty they are paper transferred back to the original unit having never moved.

    Regards
    Ross


    Thanks Ross , you have beeen an enormous help . I thought it must have been like that, but needed some confirmation.

    Regards

    Nick
     
  5. johnsonsyard

    johnsonsyard Member

    Nick

    As an Army type (as opposed to a RAF type) I believe that in some areas the records were kept similarly.

    When I was posted overseas I found myself allocated a Draft number of REAYK some time before the actual sailing with two separate locations and units involved before I was actually aboard ship and on my way.

    Ron


    Thanks for reply , Ron. Backs up what Ross has ben saying.

    Regards

    Nick
     
  6. pbr

    pbr Junior Member

    Hi,
    does anyone know what has been removed in the middle pages of RAF form 2520 - ("Royal Air Force Certificate of Service and Release") - is it, by any chance the service details that everyone is so desperate to obtain?

    BTW - does anyone know how to correct an entry in the London Gazette? My father received an MID - gazetted on the 14/06/1945 (King's Birthday Honours List) Supplement page 3007. His service number was shown as 1179561 whereas it should have been 1179562 (I have the certificate)?:D
     
  7. RAFCommands

    RAFCommands Senior Member

    Middle pages were light blue RAF Form 2520/11 front and RAF Form 2520/12 reverse

    This was not the full service record from Form 543 or Form 280 but a precis of the final entries eg service no, trade, aircrew badges, character, description, special aptitude, clearance certificate, condensed particulars of service (highlights and ranks).

    Regards
    Ross
     

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