RAF plane ID

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  1. morrisc8

    morrisc8 Under the Bed

    I need help to ID this photo i have of a shot down RAF plane. Could it be a Spitfire ? info on back of photo in German, it might say Dunkirk ? on the back Thanks for any help.
    Keith
    ww2 RAF Shot down plane.jpg ww2 RAF Shot down plane. close up 1.jpg ww2 RAF Shot down plane. close up 2.jpg ww2 RAF Shot down plane. back.jpg
     
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  2. flakdodger

    flakdodger Member

    Yes indeed, a Spitfire
     
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  3. Robert-w

    Robert-w Banned

    I think that may be a Fairy Battle cockpit
     
  4. Orwell1984

    Orwell1984 Senior Member

    It's a Spitfire.

    The reflector sight mount is the giveaway.

    Spitfire cockpit:


    [​IMG]

    For comparison Battle cockpit:
    [​IMG]
     
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  5. morrisc8

    morrisc8 Under the Bed

    Thanks guys, would it be a Mk 1 Spitfire 1940?
     
  6. ltdan

    ltdan Nietenzähler

    Englischer Jäger bei Dünkirchen = English fighter at Dunkirk
     
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  7. Blutto

    Blutto Banned

    The presence of the IFF destruct switches (marked DANGER) suggests Jan 1940 or later if my information is correct.
     
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  8. morrisc8

    morrisc8 Under the Bed

    Shot down spitfire Dunkirk area. I found the same photo for sale on epay with this info on the back.
    [ English fighter shot down on June 27, 1941 Crash landing, pilot recovered, interior view 8 rounds in On-board cannon ].
    So it gives us a date and my photo info gives the area it was shot down, just need to find out the plane unit and pilot ID.
    ww2 shot down spitfire back of photo 1.jpg
     
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  9. Harry Ree

    Harry Ree Very Senior Member

    With the information provided it could be a Spitfire Mark V of No 74 Squadron out of Gravesend on a sweep of Northern France, one of two No 74 Squadron Mark Vs lost that day which the pilots became POWs.

    From that it could be W 3210 flown by P/O W J Sandman who was lost on a late evening sweep, being shotdown by a Me 109.The Spitfire would be a Vb version which had 2 cannons plus 4 x MGs while the Va version was equipped with 8 x MGs, the same as the Spitfire Mark 11s which were also lost on that day.

    This was the time when FC went on the offensive over Northern France and introduced the Mark V to equip its day fighter squadrons.
     
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  10. ltdan

    ltdan Nietenzähler

    English fighter shot down by Messerschmitt,
    belly landing,
    pilot recovered
    Interior view, 8 M.G.
    Onboard gun
     
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  11. ltdan

    ltdan Nietenzähler

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  13. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

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  14. Pat Atkins

    Pat Atkins Well-Known Member

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  15. ltdan

    ltdan Nietenzähler

    in german usage, wounded and dead are usually recovered, because this word implies that the person in question cannot help themselves
    But here too the exception proves the rule
     
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  16. Pat Atkins

    Pat Atkins Well-Known Member

    Thank you - that's very helpful!

    Cheers, Pat
     
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