RAF Air Gunners Training School

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  1. Sussex by the Sea

    Sussex by the Sea Senior Member

    Hello Folks,
    Would anyone know where RAF Air Gunners were trained late 1942?
     
  2. David Layne

    David Layne Well-Known Member

  3. Sussex by the Sea

    Sussex by the Sea Senior Member

    Thanks David.
     
  4. David Layne

    David Layne Well-Known Member

    I believe there were a total of 13 B&G schools, listed No.1 through No.13.
     
  5. Sussex by the Sea

    Sussex by the Sea Senior Member

    What i am looking for Dave is course photographs for 1942, my grandfathers brother was an Air Gunner on 295 Sqn he did his training in 1942.
     
  6. canuck

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  7. Sussex by the Sea

    Sussex by the Sea Senior Member

    He may well of done Canuk. Do you know whereabouts in Canada they were trained?
    Steve
     
  8. snailer

    snailer Country Member

  9. David Layne

    David Layne Well-Known Member

    From Wiki

    No. 1 Jarvis, Ontario (Anson, Battle, Bolingbroke and Lysander)
    No. 2 Mossbank, Saskatchewan (Anson, Battle, Bolingbroke and Lysander)
    No. 3 Macdonald, Manitoba (Anson, Battle, Bolingbroke and Lysander)
    No. 4 Fingal, Ontario (Anson, Battle, Bolingbroke and Lysander)
    No. 5 Dafoe, Saskatchewan (Anson, Battle, Bolingbroke and Lysander)
    No. 6 Mountain View, Ontario (Anson, Battle, Bolingbroke and Lysander)
    No. 7 Paulson, Manitoba (Anson, Battle, Bolingbroke and Lysander)
    No. 8 Lethbridge, Alberta (Anson, Battle, Bolingbroke and Lysander)
    No. 9 Mont-Joli, Quebec (Anson, Battle, Bolingbroke and Lysander)
    No. 10 Mount Pleasant, Prince Edward Island (Anson, Battle, Bolingbroke and Lysander)
    No. 31 [​IMG] Picton, Ontario (Anson, Battle, Bolingbroke and Lysander)
     
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  10. canuck

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  11. canuck

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    At the plan's peak, 94 schools operating at 231 sites across Canada, 10,840 aircraft were involved, and the ground organization numbered 104,113 men and women, and three thousand trainees graduated each month. At a cost of more than $ 1.6 billion, 131,553 pilots, navigators, bomb aimers, wireless operators, air gunners, and flight engineers were graduated.

    No. 1 Training Command
    Headquarters in Toronto
    Elementary Flying Training Schools:
    No.1 Malton 1940-1942.
    No. 2 Thunder Bay 1940-1944.
    No. 3 London 1940-1942.
    No. 7 Windsor 1940-1944. Relief Landing Field located at Maidstone.
    No. 9 St Catharines 1940-1944. Relief Landing Field located at Willoughby.
    No. 10 Mount Hope. 1940-1942.
    No. 10 Pendleton. 1942-1945. Relief Landing Field located at Limoges.
    No. 12 Goderich 1940-1944. Relief Landing Field located at Goderich South.
    No. 13 St. Eugene. 1940-1945. School moved to St. Jean. Relief Landing Field located at Hawksbury.
    No. 20 Oshawa 1941-1944. Relief Landing Field located at Whitby, near Camp X.
    Service Flying Training Schools:
    No. 1 Camp Borden 1939-1946. No. 1 Relief Landing Field located at Edenvale. No. 2 Relief Landing Field located at Alliston.
    No. 2 Ottawa 1940-1945. No. 1 Relief Landing Field located at Carp. No. 2 Relief Landing Field located at Edwards.
    No. 5 Brantford 1940-1944. No. 1 Relief Landing Field located at Burtch.
    No. 6 Dunnville 1940-1944. No. 1 Relief landing field located at Welland.
    No. 9 Centralia 1942-1945. No. 1 Relief Landing Field located at Grand Bend. No. 2 Relief Landing Field located at St. Joseph.
    No. 14 Aylmer 1940-1944. School re-located to Kingston in 1944. No. 1 Relief Landing Field located at St. Thomas. No. 2 Relief Landing Field located in Tilsonburg.
    No. 16 Haggersville 1942-1945. No. 1 Relief Landing Field located at Kohler. No. 2 Relief Landing Field located at Dufferin.
    No. 31 Kingston 1940-1944. Redesigned No. 14 SFTS from 1944-1945. Relief Landing Fields located at Sandhurst & Gananoque.
    Instrument Flying School:
    Deseronto 1943-1945.
    Air Navigation Schools:
    No. 31 Port Albert 1940-1945.
    No. 33 Hamilton 1941-1944.
    Air Observers:
    No. 1 Malton 1940�1945.
    No. 4 London 1940-1944.
    Initial Training School:
    No. 1 Toronto 1940-1945.
    No. 6 Toronto 1941-1944.
    Technical Training School:
    St Thomas 1939-1945.
    Technical Detachment:
    No. 12 Toronto
    AID Inspector Schools:
    Toronto
    Administration School:
    Trenton
    Equipment & Accounting School:
    St Thomas 1940-1942.
    Air Armament School:
    Mountain View 1941-1947.
    Equipment Depot:
    No. 1 Toronto. Relocated from Ottawa in 1940. Located at Queens Quay until 1946. Moved to new facilities in Weston. This facility closed in 1954. Now Knob Hill Farms.
    Repair Depot:
    No. 6 Trenton
    Central Flying School:
    Trenton. Opened in 1940. Still active.
    Wireless School:
    No. 1 Hamilton 1944-1945.
    No. 4 Guelph 1941-1945.
    Radio School:
    No. 31 Clinton. 1941-1971.
    School of Aviation Medicine :
    Toronto
    Bombing and Gunnery Schools:
    No. 1 Jarvis 1940-1945.
    No. 4 Fingal 1940-1945.
    No. 6 Mountain View 1941-1947.
    No. 31 Picton 1941-1944.
    Composite Training School:
    Trenton.
    X Depot:
    No. 13 Camp Borden.
    Link Trainer Instructor School:
    No. 1 Toronto.
    Flight Engineer School:
    No. 1 Aylmer 1944-1945.
    Flight Instructor School:
    No. 1 Trenton 1942-1945.
    No. 3 Arnprior 1942-1944. Relief Landing Field located at Pontiac, Quebec.
    Recruiting Centres:
    No. 7 North Bay.
    No. 8 Windsor.
    No 9 London.
    No. 10 Hamilton.
    No. 11 Toronto.
    Manning Depot:
    No. 1 Toronto 1939-1944.
    Women's Division:
    No. 6 Toronto.
    School of Cookery:
    Guelph.
    No. 1 Winter Experimental & Training Flight:
    Kapaskasing 1943-1944.



    No. 2 Training Command:
    April 15, 1940 first formed at Winnipeg, Manitoba
    April 15, 1940 Training School Number 7 set up in Saskatoon
    Elementary Flying Training Schools:
    No.2 Fort William, Saskatchewan. Relief Landing Field at
    No. 6 Prince Albert, Saskatchewan 1940-1944. Relief Landing Field located at Hagan.
    No. 14 Portage la Prarie, Manitoba 1940-1942.
    No. 19 Virden, Manitoba 1941-1944. Relief Landing Field at Lenore.
    No. 23 Davidson, Saskatchewan 1941-1945. Relief Landing Field at Davidson West. School moved to Yorkton, Saskatchewan.
    No. 23 Yorkton, Saskatchewan 1941-1945. Relief Landing Fields at Sturdee and Rhein.
    No. 26 Neepawa, Manitoba 30 Jan-25 Aug 1944. Relief Landing Field at
    No. 35 Neepawa, Manitoba (RAF school re-formed as No.26 EFTS) 1941-1944.
    Service Flying Training Schools:
    No. 4 Saskatoon, Saskatchewan 1940-1945. Relief Landing Fields at Osler and Vanscoy.
    No. 10 Dauphin, Manitoba 1940-1945. Relief Landing Fields at North Junction & Valley.
    No. 11 Yorkton, Saskatchewan 1941-1945. Relief Landing Fields at Sturdee and Rhein.
    No. 12 Brandon, Manitoba 1941-1945. Relief Landing Fields at Chater and Douglas.
    No. 13 North Battleford, Saskatchewan 1944-1945. Relief Landing Fields at Hamlin and Brada.
    No. 17 Souris, Manitoba 1943-1945. Relief Landing Fields at Hartney and Elgin.
    No. 18 Gimli, Manitoba 1943-1945. Relief Landing Field at Netley.
    No. 33 Carberry, Manitoba (RAF) 1940-1944. Relief Landing Fields at Oberon and Petrel.
    No. 35 North Battleford, Saskatchewan (RAF school incorporated into No.13) 1941-1945. Relief Landing Fields at Hamlin and Brada.

    Air Observers:
    No. 5 Winnipeg, Manitoba 1941-1945.
    No. 6 Prince Albert, Saskatchewan 1941-1942.
    No. 7 Portage la Prarie, Manitoba 1941-1945.
    Central Navigation School:
    No. 1 Rivers, Manitoba 1942-1945.
    Wireless School:
    No. 3 Winnipeg, Manitoba 1941-1945.
    Bombing and Gunnery Schools:
    No. 3 MacDonald, Manitoba 1941-1945.
    No. 5 Dafoe, Saskatchewan 1941-1945.
    No. 7 Paulson, Manitoba 1941-1945.
    Initial Training School:
    No. 7 Saskatoon, Saskatchewan 1941-1944.



    No. 3 Training Command:
    Initial Training School:
    No. 3 Victoriaville 1941-1944.
    Elementary Flying Training Schools:
    No. 4 Windsor Mills, Quebec 1940-1944.
    No. 11 Cap de la Madeline, Quebec 1940-1944.
    No. 17 Stanley, Nova Sotia 1941-1944.
    No 21 Chatham, New Brunswick 1941-1942.
    No. 22 Ancienne Lorette, Quebec 1941-1942.
    Service Flying Training Schools:
    No. 2 Ottawa, Ontario 1940-1945.
    No. 8 Moncton, New Brunswick 1940-1944. Relief Landing Field at Sailsbury. School moved to Weyburn, Saskatchewan.
    No. 9 Summerside, Prince Edward Island 1941-1942. Relief landing field at Wellington, PEI.
    No 13 St. Hubert, Quebec 1941-1944. No. 2 RLF located at Farnham.
    Air Observer School:
    No. 8 Quebec 1941-1945.
    No. 9 St Jean, Quebec 1941-1945.
    No. 10 Chatham, New Brunswick 1941-1945.
    Air Navigation Schools:
    No. 2 Pennfield Ridge, New Brunswick 1941-1944.
    No. 32 Charlottetown, Prince Edward Island 1944-1945.
    Naval Air Gunners School:
    No. 1 Yarmouth, Nova Scotia 1943-1945.
    Operational Training Units:
    No. 1 Baggotville, Queubec. RLF located at St-Homore.
    No. 8 Greenwood, Nova Scotia 1942-1944.
    No. 31 Debert, Nova Scotia 1941-1945.
    No. 34 Pennfield Ridge, New Brunswick 1942-1944.
    No. 36 Greenwood, Nova Scotia 1942-1944.
    Repair Depot:
    No. 9 St Johns, Quebec.
    Wireless School:
    No. 1 Moncton, New Brunswick 1940-1944.
    Bombing & Gunnery Schools:
    No. 9 Mount Joli, Quebec 1941-1945.
    General Reconnecence School:
    No. 1 Summerside, Prince Edward Island 1942-1945.
    No.31 Charlottetown, Prince Edward Island 1941-1944.
    Equipment Depot:
    No. 12 Montreal, Quebec.
    Equipment Unit:
    No. 17 Ottawa, Ontario.
    No. 18 Moncton, New Brunswick.
    School of Aeronautical Engineering:
    Montreal, Quebec.
    Technical Detachment:
    No. 14 Ottawa, Ontario.
    No. 17 Halifax, Nova Scotia.
    Movements Group:
    No. 11 Halifax, Nova Scotia.
    Y Depots:
    No. 1 Moncton, New Brunswick.
    RAF Personnel Depot:
    No. 31 Moncton, New Brunswick 1941-1945.
    Manning Depots:
    No. 4 Quebec, Quebec.
    No. 5 Lachine, Quebec.
    Recruit Depots:
    No. 12 Ottawa, Ontario.
    No. 13 Montreal, Quebec.
    No. 14 Quebec City, Quebec.
    No. 15 Moncton, New Brunswick.
    No. 16 Halifax, Nova Scotia.
    Womens Division:
    No. 7 Rockcliffe, Ontario.
    Officer Training School:
    No. 1 Ste Marguerite, Quebec 1943-1944.



    No. 4 Training Command :
    April 29, 1940 first formed at Regina, Saskatchewan
    October 1, 1941 moved to Calgary Alberta
    Initial Training Schools:
    No. 2 Regina Saskatchewan.
    No. 4 Edmonton, Alberta.
    Elementary Flying Training Schools:
    No. 5 Lethbridge, Alberta 1940-1941. School moved to High River, Alberta June 1941.
    No. 5 High River, Alberta 1941-1945. Relief Landing Field at Frank's Lake.
    No. 8 Vancouver, B.C. 1940-1941.
    No. 15 Regina, Saskatchewan 1941-1944. Relief Landing Field at Brora.
    No. 16 Edmonton, Alberta 1940-1942. Relief Landing Field at
    No. 18 Boundary Bay, B.C. 1941-1945. Relief Landing Field at Langley.
    No. 24 Abbotsford, B.C. 1943-1944. Relief Landing Field at Sumas.
    No. 25 Assiniboia, Saskatchewan Jan-July 1944. Relief Landing Field at Lethburn.
    No. 31 De Winton, Alberta (RAF school) 1941-1944. Relief Landing Field at Gladys & Shepard.
    No. 32 Bowden, Alberta (RAF school) 1941-1944. Relief Landing Field at Netook.
    No. 33 Caron, Saskatchewan (RAF school) 1942-1944. Relief Landing Field at Boharm.
    No. 34 Assiniboia, Saskatchewan (RAF school incorporated into No. 25) 1942-1944. Relief Landing Field at Lethburn.
    No. 36. Pearce, Alberta (RAF school) March-Aug 1942. Relief Landing Field at
    Service Flying Training Schools:
    No. 3 Calgary, Alberta 1940-1945. Relief Landing Fields at Airdire & Inverlake.
    No. 7 Fort Macleod, Alberta 1940-1944. Relief Landing Field at Granum.
    No. 8 Weyburn, Saskatchewan Jan-June 1944. Relief Landing Field at Halbrite.
    No. 15 Claresholm, Alberta 1941-1945. Relief Landings Field at Woodhouse & Pultney.
    No. 19 Vulcan, Alberta 1943-1945. Relief Landing Fields at Ensign & Champion.
    No. 32 Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan (RAF school) 1940-1944. Relief Landing Fields at Buttress and Burdick.
    No. 34 Medicine Hat, Alberta (RAF school) 1941-1944. Relief Landing Fields at Holsom & Whitla.
    No. 36 Penhold, Alberta (RAF school) 1941-1944. Relief Landing Fields at Inisifail & Blackfalds.
    No. 37 Calgary, Alberta (RAF) 1941-1944. Relief Landing Field at Shepard.
    No. 38 Estevan, Saskatchewan (RAF School) 1941-1944. Relief Landing Fields at Shand, Outram and Chandler.
    No. 39 Swift Current, Saskatchewan 1941-1944. Relief Landing Fields at St Aldwyn, Wymark and Ralph.
    No. 41 Weyburn, Saskatchewan (RAF school incorporated into No. 8) 1942-1944. Relief Landing Field at Halbrite.
    Flying Instructor School:
    No. 2 Vulcan, Alberta 1942-1943. Moved to Pearce, Alberta.
    Operational Training Squadron (WAC):
    No. 13 Sea Island, B.C. (moved to Patricia Bay, B.C. November 1940)
    Operational Training Unit (WAC):
    No. 3 Patricia Bay & Jericho Beach, B.C. 1942-1945.
    No. 5 Boundary Bay, B.C. & Abbottsford, B.C. 1942-1945.
    No. 6 Patricia Bay, B.C. 1941-1942.
    No. 6 Comox, B.C. 1942 -1944.
    No. 32 Patricia Bay, B.C. (RAF school incorporated into No.3) 1944, part of post-war RCAF.
    Air Observers Schools:
    No. 2 Edmonton, Alberta
    No. 3 Regina, Saskatchewan (moved to Pearce, Alberta in September 1942).
    Wireless School:
    No. 2 Calgary, Alberta 1940-1945.
    Bombing and Gunnery Schools:
    No. 2 Mossbank, Saskatchewan 1940-1944.
    No. 8 Lethbridge, Alberta 1941-1944.
    Radio Mechanics Depot:
    University of British Columbia 1941-1943.
    Repair Depot:
    No. 3 Vancouver, BC 1937-1945.
    No. 22 Sea Island, BC 1944-1945.
     
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  12. Sussex by the Sea

    Sussex by the Sea Senior Member

    Canuck, some great information there thanks very much, the figures for manpower and money are staggering! I have always enjoyed my trips to Canada mainly Medicine Hat and the ranges about 15 miles from Ottawa.
     
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  13. Tim H.

    Tim H. Junior Member

    RAF Millom on the coast at the West of the Lake DIstrict was an air gunnery school. It is now the site of H.M. Prison Haverigg. It opened in Jan 1941 as No2 Bombing and Gunnery School. There was a museum which unfortunately closed in 2010. I visited it in 2003 and one of the interesting parts of their collection were names of some of those who passed through who later became well known for their war record. I can't remember their names this distance in time unfortunately.

    I am also familiar with RAF Penrhos near Pwllheli which became a Polish cultural centre and holiday camp post war. It was only a relatively small air base, but none the less attracted a Luftwaffe attack after Welsh Nationalists had drawn attention to the base by objecting to its presence, on the grounds it might attract enemy attention. Never was there a more ironic self fulfilling prophecy.
     
  14. Sussex by the Sea

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  16. Pat Atkins

    Pat Atkins Patron Patron

    I'd say that given the large number of possible locations you'd do well to look for some record of a posting for your great-uncle. Snailer's suggestion about the Squadron ORB might work - I've found similar info for a relative in a 624 Squadron ORB Summary, but alas all it gave was the Base Depot he was posted from.

    The answer probably lies in his service record, if you can get that - not sure of the regulations, my own uncle (who was from Brighton - we share a Sussex connection) had been dead for 50-odd years when I applied for his and that made things easier apparently. However, there's an informative pinned thread "Obtaining RAF service records"; I can't copy-and-paste the link for some reason but it's in Research-Searching for Someone & Military Genealogy-Service Records.

    Cheers, Pat
     
  17. Huwman

    Huwman New Member

    Stormy Down, just outside of Porthcawl in S Wales was a Bombing and Gunnery School during the war. I believe it was abandoned after the war..
    My father was an wireless op / air gunner trainer stationed there in 1940. The camp also looked after the Air Sea Rescue launches stationed in the Jennings building in Porthcawl. My dad said that this was one of the best postings he had been given. So much so he married a local girl and settled in Porthcawl after the war.
     

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