Radio Network Diagram

Discussion in 'Weapons, Technology & Equipment' started by LesCM19, May 29, 2010.

  1. LesCM19

    LesCM19 "...lets rock!"

    Does anyone know where I can find a simple radio net diagram going from platoon up to battalion? I saw a good one in my travels either on the net & in books but can't remember where I saw it.
    Ta!
     
  2. skimmod

    skimmod Senior Member

    Yeah, I'll dig one out for you.
    I've written a few myself just recently, so if you need a hand with any sigs stuff, just shout!
     
  3. LesCM19

    LesCM19 "...lets rock!"

    Cheers, pal.
    Up to battalion or division if you have one, I just can't find the good one I saw, not being lazy, honest.
    :blush:
     
  4. skimmod

    skimmod Senior Member

    Sorry for the delay mate. I'll sort this out over the weekend :)
     
  5. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot Patron 1940 Obsessive

    Hi Les,

    Is this any good?
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  6. Anything similar for the artillery? Where should I look for artillery signals info?

    thanks
     
  7. LesCM19

    LesCM19 "...lets rock!"

    2 radio net diagrams, 1 telephone wiring diagram.
    The first is from 'Operation Warboard'
     

    Attached Files:

  8. Thanks. Were I not so distracted and tired I'd have a bunch of questions about those. Later.
     
  9. Rob Dickers

    Rob Dickers 10th MEDIUM REGT RA

    Anything similar for the artillery? Where should I look for artillery signals info?

    thanks

    Here is the Corps Artillery (3AGRA) Net for the start of "Op Plunder" 12/03/45
    each AGRA had its own net for the operation. There were Six AGRA's involved.
    Best
    Rob

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  10. Wills

    Wills Very Senior Member

  11. Wills

    Wills Very Senior Member

  12. Here is the Corps Artillery (3AGRA) Net for the start of "Op Plunder" 12/03/45
    each AGRA had its own net for the operation. There were Six AGRA's involved.
    Best
    Rob

    [​IMG]

    What exactly was the role of the "Main Corps" station. Was it a part of the corps HQ, or seperate?
     
  13. Rob Dickers

    Rob Dickers 10th MEDIUM REGT RA

    What exactly was the role of the "Main Corps" station. Was it a part of the corps HQ, or seperate?
    HQ(CCRA), Commander Corps RA Net
     
  14. Ok, so that station would be located within the Corps HQ, co located adjacent, or located elsewhere & linked by a seperate comm channel? I am trying to sort out how the command links actually worked, who had eye contact and who phoned it in when they communicated & coordinated fire planning.
     
  15. mapshooter

    mapshooter Senior Member

    Formation radio nets are in many ways the simplest but also the most variable, since they changed with the allocation of units and formations to the formation. Eg see Figure 3 here Artillery Communications which shows NZ Div in 1945 in 5 Corps, with 2 AGRAs and 2 AOP sqns.

    The scale of radios in units increased throughout the war, this means the net diagrams also changed so there is no one answer to the question. Add to this issues such as Burma, where matters were different and possible differences between the various types of OP tank.

    You also have to consider the matter of authorised OPs, including AOPs, who could join a formation artillery net instead of staying on their regiment or battery net. And don't forget the survey, light AA and anti-tank regiments.

    Another issue would be dismounted forward observation officers using manpack radios and auto-rebroadcast.

    The short answer is there is no answer to the question because it depended on the circumstances.
     
  16. Wills

    Wills Very Senior Member

    Modern explanations (much the same thing) can be found in this must have coffee table tome! Signals section.

    Staff Officers Hand Book see page 1-22-1 for an example


    An HQ can be Main, with a rear main, advanced Fwd HQ, tac int, tac ops, tac plans, support and so on, some can be in same location as per situation ............all netted to HQ Main and HQ Main will be linked to higher formations
     
  17. Willis... thanks, actually the diagram on 1-22-2 has the answer. Presumably the box labeled "Artillery Ops" corresponds to the 1945 practice.

    Returning to the Op Plunder Diagram. Were a FOO of the Div atillery brigade to call for a Victor, William, or Yoke target would the message be routed through the Main/Corps HQ node on the diagram, or would there be another route? ...as suggested here:

    Royal Artillery Methods in World War 2

    "BCs and COs of medium batteries and regiments were often CRA’s or CCRA’s Representatives and authorised to order the divisional or corps artillery and have communications on the divisional or corps artillery radio net."
     
  18. mapshooter

    mapshooter Senior Member

    Bearing in mind the maxim 'never say never to anything related to the British Army', then it would be highly unusual for artillery traffic to be sent over anything other that artillery radio nets. What could be variable was who was on who's net.

    There's at least one account from Normandy of a CCRA departing his HQ carrying a manpack radio (presumably planning to rebro through his rover) as he went to be his own representative.
     
  19. Rob Dickers

    Rob Dickers 10th MEDIUM REGT RA

    Returning to the Op Plunder Diagram.

    Glad you found it interesting
    It took me a long time to dig it out!
     
  20. Where did you find the Op Plunder radio diagram?
     

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