RA HAA 3rd Regiment POW Singapore 1941 to 1945

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  1. papiermache

    papiermache WO 356 Mechanic

    Paul,

    Welcome to the forum. Your grandfather served under Lt-Col F.E. Hugonin, a very highly regarded officer. Search for Lt Col Hugonin on the internet and you will find a very detailed piece of research on the 3rd Heavy Anti-Aircraft Regiment available for download in pdf format. I don't know the name of the author, having just found it myself, but it is a wonderful piece of work. Start with that.

    John
     
  2. Paulsquire

    Paulsquire Member

    Thank you John , I appreciate it
     
  3. Enigma1003

    Enigma1003 Member

    Paul,

    L/Bdr John Thomas Abbott, next of kin shown as mother, Mrs A Barker, Grindale, Bridlington, Yorks.

    Sent overseas, 1100 men under command of Lt-Col F.E. Hugonin on 4th April 1942, by hellship Nisshu Maru, to Saigon, arriving on 10th April 1942.

    Sent to the Death Railway on 22nd June 1943. (700 men)

    Mike
     
  4. Paulsquire

    Paulsquire Member

    Hi mike , can you tell me the link you got this from as his mothers name varies from post to post.
    Paul
     
  5. Paulsquire

    Paulsquire Member

    John, have you got the link for the pdf of lt Col hugonin I can't find it , many thanks
    Paul
     
  6. Enigma1003

    Enigma1003 Member

    Paul,

    The page I got my information from is not online, I have it at home.
    If you send me a PM with your email, I am happy to send a photo of the page to you.


    In advance of John replying, I believe the PDF he refers to is the Saigon Battalion, which is at this link:
    http://www.fepow.org/uploads/4/3/1/3/4313799/the_saigon_battalion_record_book.pdf

    You need to look at PDF pages 34 and 35.(not book page numbers)

    Mike
     
  7. papiermache

    papiermache WO 356 Mechanic

    Good Morning Paul and Mike,

    As Mike says, the website "Saigon Battalion" has the pdf referred to, and much more. I do not know how to contact the authors to congratulate them on their great work but they say they have "scoured the National Archives at Kew" and are called Jean Roberts and Frank Clark. For all I know they may be forum members. I will send you a personal message ( usually abbreviated to PM ).

    John
     
  8. Paulsquire

    Paulsquire Member

    Thank you to you both again
     
  9. papiermache

    papiermache WO 356 Mechanic

    Paul,

    Have now sent you a pm with my email address. It is not a good idea to publish your email address openly, so I suggest you edit your last post.

    John
     
  10. Paulsquire

    Paulsquire Member

    Done thanks John
     
  11. Dannemois

    Dannemois Member

    Hi
    I have followed this topic with great interest as I too have been researching local lads from my home village who were prisoners in Singapore. I found the two attached cards on FindmyPast; can someone please help with further details. GBM-POW-GALLIP-1-1-87-01007 (2).jpg Tom Williams.jpg
     
  12. SDP

    SDP Incurable Cometoholic Patron

    Dannemois

    I suggest you obtain the other side of each card. This will describe which camps they were sent too and when they were liberated.

    See my 'does anyone here speak Japanese' thread for further guidance.
     
  13. Dannemois

    Dannemois Member

    Hi SDP
    I have looked for the thread 'does anyone here speak Japanese' but I can't seem to find it, where can I locate it?
     
  14. SDP

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  15. Enigma1003

    Enigma1003 Member

    Hi Dannemois,

    I cant read Japanese but I can interpret vaguely most of the detail on the Index Card of THOMAS WILLIAMS:

    Sent OVS (Oversea) from Changi on 16.08.1942 as part of 'B Party' on the hellship Fukkai Maru (also known as Fuji Maru)
    Arrived Takao, Formosa on 29.08.1942. Spent 2 weeks working dockside loading rice.
    Sailed 15.09.1942 for Pusan, Korea., arriving 22.09.1942.
    Made to march for several hours around the streets to jeering crowds, who had turned out in force to witness ‘the collapse of the mighty British Empire’.
    (Index card updated as 17-9-25 (25th Sept. 42)) imprisoned in Chosen OA Keijo Camp (Seoul).

    (Index Card: 18-7-20 (20th July 1943)) The Japanese symbols seem to suggest he was sent to a camp in Osaka, Japan, but I cannot see evidence of this.

    (Index card: 20-5-10 (10th May 1945)). Moved to Fukuoka 27B Tagawa. This was a coal mining camp.

    (Index Card: 20-9-22 (22nd Sept. 1945)). Exact date unknown but had already returned to Allied troops.

    (See page 4 of PDF)
    http://www.mansell.com/pow_resources/camplists/fukuoka/fuk-27-tagawa/FUK-27_Brit_US_Aus_Dut_rosters-s.pdf

    More than happy for any corrections to be made, by those more experienced.

    Mike
     

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  16. Dannemois

    Dannemois Member

    SDP
    Many thanks for the link, very much appreciated
     
  17. Dannemois

    Dannemois Member

    Hello Mike
    Thank you so much for the details on the back of Tom Williams's card; I doubt if I would have managed it without you guys and I can not thank you enough.

    Roy
     
  18. Enigma1003

    Enigma1003 Member

    David Harris 1605205

    The rear of his Index card gives no information except that his liberation date was September 1st 1945.

    The Liberation Questionaire from COFEPOW gives good detail about his camps in Siam.

    Mike
     

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  19. Dannemois

    Dannemois Member

    Mike; Once again many many thanks you have been very helpful.

    Best Regards, Roy
     
  20. Dannemois

    Dannemois Member

    Hi Mike
    My eyesight isn't as good as it was but with glasses and magnifying glass I have made an attempt to transcribe the Liberation Questionaire and I wondered if you would cast an eye over it.

    Camp or Hospital Dates Leader
    Banpong June to Col Williamson
    Chunkai Sept 42 - Feb 43 Col Williamson
    Wampo North Feb 43 - Apr 43 Capt Davison
    Chunkai (Chinikai) ? Apr 43 - Aug 43 Col Williamson
    248 KM camp Aug - Dec 43 Col Swinton
    Chungkai Dec 43 - Aug 44 Col Owlran ?
    ? unable to read Aug 44 - Nov 44 Maj Nelson ?
    Tamakan Nov - Jan 45 ? unable to read
    N Paton Jan - Aug Col Coates
     

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