R.A.F bases in 1952

Discussion in 'Postwar' started by Wolves Guy, May 2, 2008.

  1. Wolves Guy

    Wolves Guy Member

    Can anyone tell me if the following R.A.F bases were used as training camps in 1952
    Merryfield
    West Drayton
    If not can anyone let me know anything about them at the tiime of 1952. I'm just trying to fill in a few gaps on my fathers service.

    Also what does the following abbriviations mean
    5PDC
    2Sof TT Cosford

    Dave
     
  2. the_historian

    the_historian Pillboxologist

    At a rough guess, "2s of tt" = #2 School of Technical Training, Cosford. But don't quote me.
    Sorry I can't help with the rest though.
     
  3. Wolves Guy

    Wolves Guy Member

    thank you for that Gordon, maybe someone else may come and confirm your guess.
     
  4. Peter Clare

    Peter Clare Very Senior Member

    S of TT = School of Technical Training.

    PDC = Port Defence Committee.

    Peter.
     
  5. Wolves Guy

    Wolves Guy Member

    Well Peter thank you for your help again. Can you tell me if there is any book or site that deals with the abbriviations of the R.A.F?
     
  6. Peter Clare

    Peter Clare Very Senior Member

    Seems PDC has one of three meanings.....

    PDC - Personnel Dispatch Centre; or Professional Development Council; or Port Defence Committee
     
  7. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Acccording to this in 1952 the Americans were at West Drayton.
    Stations-W

    RAF Merryfield.
    RAF Merryfield - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Late in 1951, Merryfield was re-opened as an advanced pilot training establishment with Vampire and Meteor jets. Some additional concrete was laid in front of the main technical site and other building work conducted before the station was again run down towards the end of 1954.
     
  8. Nige GSX1400 UK

    Nige GSX1400 UK Junior Member

    Wulfs Guy (sorry couldnt resist) as you are in Walsall I guess you have been to Cosford?

    If not, do go, its worth it and its free entry. After all it has the world's oldest surviving production Spitfire, all 3 V bombers and plenty more.

    If you ask some of the guys who guide visitors around about your query they may know the answers.

    I just wish they would take the Hunter off Gate Duty. Then bring it inside for a respray in its Blue Diamond colours and clean up the canopy glass etc. Its too gorgeous to sit and rot in the cold. Stick a Jaguar on there instead, as Cosford now has a few Jags sitting around as instructional airframes.

    Boing Boing to all
    Nige
     
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  9. Nige GSX1400 UK

    Nige GSX1400 UK Junior Member

  10. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Wulfs Guy (sorry couldnt resist) as you are in Walsall I guess you have been to Cosford?

    If not, do go, its worth it and its free entry. After all it has the world's oldest surviving production Spitfire, all 3 V bombers and plenty more.

    If you ask some of the guys who guide visitors around about your query they may know the answers.

    I just wish they would take the Hunter off Gate Duty. Then bring it inside for a respray in its Blue Diamond colours and clean up the canopy glass etc. Its too gorgeous to sit and rot in the cold. Stick a Jaguar on there instead, as Cosford now has a few Jags sitting around as instructional airframes.

    Boing Boing to all
    Nige
    I second all of this.
    If anyone's not been to Cosford... Go.
    'May know the answers' is a bit of an understatement for just how willing to chat, and knowledgable, the average Cosford guide seems to be.

    And yes, spray the Hunter blue. :D

    Cheers,
    Adam.
     
  11. Wolves Guy

    Wolves Guy Member

    Cheers guys, for your input into my topic it's much appriciated and your links have helped me. I have just recieved my fathers r.a.f service records and found out that while in service he was sentenced to 9 months in the jankers. Don't know waht for at the moment but he must have been quite a naughty lad at the beginning of his service.
    Oh by the way I am off to cosford this june to the air show for the first time.
    Thanks again
     
  12. urqh

    urqh Senior Member

    Cosford? Spent 16 weeks of my life there over the years. Fought a forest fire at nearby Cannock chase in 76, bank holiday fire supposed to be on leave and found myself all alone at midnight, pitch black, broom one, fighting fires for the use of, standing inside the German war cemetary there. Actually damped down a few grass fires inside. Cosford had an accmodation block called Fulton which will lie in the memory of any transient journeyman or apprencice. Built like a massive fort, you could litterally get lost in it. A number of airmens resteraunts where you had to fight off the sparrows as they fought you for the food throuhg broken windows. And the sound everynight of trainee telegraphists banging away on the metal pipes as the rest of us tried to sleep.
     
  13. Harry Ree

    Harry Ree Very Senior Member

    Cheers guys, for your input into my topic it's much appriciated and your links have helped me. I have just recieved my fathers r.a.f service records and found out that while in service he was sentenced to 9 months in the jankers. Don't know waht for at the moment but he must have been quite a naughty lad at the beginning of his service.
    Oh by the way I am off to cosford this june to the air show for the first time.
    Thanks again


    Wolves,

    Interesting comment regarding your father.What was the era of his service?.

    You father's incarceration would not be "jankers' which was adminstered on a RAF Station and was awarded for a misdemeanor such as being late for parade or say for a poor turn out etc and would normally run for three days where the person would be confined to the station.He would normally have to parade in working blue with various uniform attachments at 0630hrs in the morning and 1830 hrs at night and be given menials tasks.No early morning calls for defaulters were allowed and the discipline imposed was that a defaulter had to ensure he paraded at the given time.If he failed he would be subject a fresh charge and the likelihood of a further award of jankers.Overall it was a "On station" punishment which was in reality "confined to barracks" with normal off duty time, apart from sleeping time being occupied by the undertaking of menial tasks.

    Detention was awarded for the more serious breaches of discipline or a dereliction of duties These offences could range from offences such as abset without leave,general indiscipline, fighting, persistent failure to salute an officer failing to salute an officier,improper use of Air Ministry property etc.Serious technical incompetence was also punished by detention for offences such as not carrying out a aircraft inspections as required and trained for and indicating by signing the Form 700 that the aircraft servicing tasks had been completed when they had not and signing for the aircraft or equipment servicing as being satisfactory when it was defective.

    Post War,I think the RAF used the Army unit detention centre at Colchester.However in the wartime days when a successful charge of aircrew LMF could be applied to an individual, the detention sentence was served at the Aircrew Disciplinary Centre at Sheffield. As I understand it,this unit also covered General Disciplinary detention sentences awarded to all aircrew.
     
  14. Wolves Guy

    Wolves Guy Member

    Hello Harry, sorry it has taken sometime to reply to your post on my topic, but I have been off line due to problems with my isp. You have givin some intresting reading above thank you for that. My father was in service with the R.A.F from 1951 until 1957, he ended his service with a few months at Cosford.
    It does mention on his service records that he started his 9 months sentence in September 1952, and then was released from M.C.E Colchester in March 1953, with 124 days sentence suspended, so I guess he only served about 6 months of his sentence and had been released early maybe due to good conduct?
    Thanks a lot chaps for all your input. Sorry again that I couldnt get back to read your reply Harry, due to my isp problems.
     
  15. Nige GSX1400 UK

    Nige GSX1400 UK Junior Member

    I second all of this.
    If anyone's not been to Cosford... Go.
    'May know the answers' is a bit of an understatement for just how willing to chat, and knowledgable, the average Cosford guide seems to be.
    Cheers,
    Adam.

    Cheers Adam.
    I did apply to work at Cosford when they were looking for guides for the Cold War Exhibition.
    I hold a B.A.(Hons) Degree in History/Politics, mainly 20th Century including the Cold War. I am also a military equipment and aviation fan and have some knowledge of many post WW2 aircraft such as the Lightning, the V bombers, the Hunter, MIG 15 and 21, Sabre, Phantom and others. Oh and I speak and read some Russian and French.

    Guess what? I did not even get an interview :mad:.

    To end a general aviation question for fun.
    Which plane in the mid 80s was the only one to overtake Concorde in acceleration tests, nope it was not the F104, F15 or the Tornado :D.

    All the best
    Nige
     

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