Pushbikes.

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  1. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Entertaining page on Military bicycles, present & some past:
    http://www.combatreform.com/atb.htm
    'The Future of Warfare!'

    Reminded me of a chap at Beltring once with some 'waffenrads' (Is that the right term, or just a brand?), pushbikes adapted to carry Panzerfausts, ammunition, or serve some other military purpose.
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    Few more shots from IWM collections,

    The official:
    A soldier from 11th Armoured Division guards two youthful German prisoners and a haul of 'panzerfaust' anti-tank weapons, 7 April 1945. The Germans were part of a bicycle-mounted tank-hunting unit.
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    Soldiers from 11th Armoured Division examine 'panzerfaust' anti-tank weapons fitted to a bicycle, 7 April 1945. The Germans were using bicycle-mounted tank-hunting units in this area.
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    And the more extemporised:
    Men of the 2nd Gordon Highlanders during the advance in Germany, 29 April 1945. Pte Fred Greener pushes a bicycle loaded with mortar bombs.
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    I know several nations used pushbikes militarily, but was wondering if anyone knows more specifically on what scale they were issued (rather than scrounged)?

    Cheers,
    Adam
     
  2. Rich Payne

    Rich Payne Rivet Counter Patron 1940 Obsessive

    You don't see many of these around !

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    Actually Adam, I can't answer your question although I have seen high production figures for bicycles. The question is how many were used by front-line units ?
     
  3. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    It's a bit vague really Rich, we've all seen dozens of shots of troops on bikes but I'd never really thought of how extensively they were used.
    Kind of wondering who was the most 'Bicycle-ised' Nation.

    I'm guessing Germany, they must have had something in mind for all those nicked from the Dutch (a subject that still rankles apparently) and pictures of them seem the commonest (though of course, amount of surviving shots is no real indication).

    Few more links; I'd forgotten the British Airborne bikes, someone might have an idea how widely they were actually issued/used?
    http://www.flmvpa.org/bicycles.htm

    Some model info (I like the look of the' Phillips Heavy Infantry/'Bertha Mk I' ) :
    http://www.io.com/tog/milbicycles.html
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    And of course the Japanese use:
    http://www.militaryhistoryonline.com/wwii/articles/singapore.aspx
    I seem to recall the rattle of tyreless pushbikes is a not uncommon theme in personal accounts of the fall of Singapore.
     
  4. Rich Payne

    Rich Payne Rivet Counter Patron 1940 Obsessive

    It's interesting that you should mention 'wij willen onze fietsen terug' as the tandem picture is captioned to the effect that it was picked up in Holland.

    I have seen a production figure recently for BSA military bicycles. From memory 50,000 - 60,000 of the folding ones and lots more of the conventional types. I'll try to remember where.

    Royal Enfield made military models as well.

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    They also had a limited civilian production, mostly for essential users (Did anyone mention District Nurses ?);)

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    I imagine that the conventional bikes were largely used for local communications in base areas.

    The Belgians had a lot of bicycles (but not for long) and in fact had special 'Grenswielrijders' or 'Cyclistes Frontieres' Unfortunately, when the Germans attacked the bridges at Vroenhoven and Veldwezelt, the land lines were down and one of them had to cycle to Lanaken to ask for permission to blow them.
     
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  6. airborne medic

    airborne medic Very Senior Member

    The War Establsihment tables for an airborne division give two types of bicycles.....'trade pattern' and 'folding'......
    For example HQ of the Division had 20 trade and 32 folding, A/L Brigade 20 trade and 5 folding....whilst a RE Field Park Company had 67 and a parachute btn 16 of each type.....
     
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  7. von Poop

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  8. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    From War diary of 5th Battalion COLDSTREAM GUARDS, 26th July 1944.

    MOVEMENT OF CYCLISTS.
    The journey of 277 Division to the battle area may not have been so arduous as was first supposed. A document has been captured giving detailed instructions on the towing of bicyclists behind vehicles. Extracts from this order are given below:-
    (a) Tow-rope. Washing-line or thin wire 20in long. Connecting lines attached.
    (b) Dress. In cold weather overcoat and gloves (additional warmth by means of newspaper).
    (c) Towing Group Capabilities.
    Lorries - Up to 20 men.
    Semi-tracked MG with trailer - Up to 10 men.
    Med cross country lorry - Up to 10 men
    Volkswagen - At most 8 men.
    MC with side car - At most 8 men.
    (d) Mounting. The soldier stands close by his bicycle on its left. The right pedal is up. The inner hand holds the wooden handle of the rope and the handle-bars with the string between the first and middle fingers. It is forbidden to wind the string round the hand, as the soldier must be able to let go the tow-rope in a fraction of a second. On the signal or the command ‘mount’, the right leg is swung over the frame and placed on the right hand pedal.
    (e) The Journey, Principle. Main and connecting lines must always be taut. The rider ensures this by an elastic yielding or pulling back of the arm or upper body.
     
  9. KevinC

    KevinC Slightly wierd

    wot, no carbon fibre frames and DuraAce groupset
     
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  10. Mussolini

    Mussolini Gaming Guru

    Weren't the Japs also well known for riding their bicycles?
     
  11. Jonathan Ball

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  16. Gebirgsjaeger

    Gebirgsjaeger Senior Member

    Funny i´m blocked to see this item for some restrictions made by my country! Can anyone please tell me what is so dangerous with this bikes? No brakes or....
     
  17. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    There's a picture of some guns on the BSA mark, and a war department arrow.
    I knew German eBay was sensitive to certain... errrm... 'logos', but...
     
  18. Gebirgsjaeger

    Gebirgsjaeger Senior Member

    Aahh, thanks! Thats the usual nonsense policy of Ebay.
     
  19. Jonathan Ball

    Jonathan Ball It's a way of life.

  20. Gebirgsjaeger

    Gebirgsjaeger Senior Member

    Thank you for your work but it shows the same:

    Unfortunately, access to this particular item has been blocked due to legal restrictions in some countries. We are blocking your viewing in an effort to prevent restricted items from being displayed. Regrettably, in some cases, we may prevent users from accessing items that are not within the scope of said restrictions because of limitations of existing technology. Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience this may cause, and we hope you may find other items of interest on eBay.

    What are the prices for such bikes?
     

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