Pte Fred Lowis , KOSB 6th Battalion

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  1. karl1968

    karl1968 Junior Member

    I am looking to find any information possible about my grandad Pte Fred Lowis 3195163 who was in the 6th battalion of the KOSB . He was drowned due to a battle accident on 28th august 1944 along with 5 other soldiers one of them being his quartermaster seargent W McMinn .His remains are in the cemetery in St Pierre Du Vauvary near Caen with the mentioned 5 . it would be unbeleivable to haer from some body who knew him or knew of him , heres hoping . Karl .
     
  2. Steve Mac

    Steve Mac Very Senior Member

    Welcome to the forum Karl. I'm sure someone will be along to assist you soon!

    Best,

    Steve.
     
  3. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Hello Karl and welcome to the forum.

    Have you considered obtaining a copy of his units war diary? This may shed some light on what he and his unit was doing leading upto and on the day of his death.

    Regards
    Andy
     
  4. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Probaly drowned crossing the Seine, I imagine.
    I've read of other units who lost men & lorries falling off rafts during the Seine crossings.
    Welcome to the forum.
     
  5. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    welcome to the forum
    Casualties below for that date

    Private FRED LOWIS

    3195163, 6th Bn., King's Own Scottish Borderers
    who died age 29
    on 28 August 1944
    Son of Richard and Mabel Lowis, of Darwen, Lancashire; husband of Alice Lowis, of Darwen.
    Remembered with honour
    ST. PIERRE-DU-VAUVRAY COMMUNAL CEMETERY


    Serjeant SAMUEL CRAWFORD

    3193257, 6th Bn., King's Own Scottish Borderers
    who died age 27
    on 28 August 1944
    Husband of Joseann Crawford, of Kelhead, Dumfriesshire.
    Remembered with honour
    ST. PIERRE-DU-VAUVRAY COMMUNAL CEMETERY

    Private JOHN DOCKRAY

    14376302, 6th Bn., King's Own Scottish Borderers
    who died age 20
    on 28 August 1944
    Son of Joseph and Margaret Dockray, of Workington, Cumberland.
    Remembered with honour
    ST. PIERRE-DU-VAUVRAY COMMUNAL CEMETERY

    Company Quartermaster Serjeant WILLIAM McMINN

    3181304, 6th Bn., King's Own Scottish Borderers
    who died age 46
    on 28 August 1944
    Son of Maxwell and Jessie McMinn; husband of Helen McMinn, of Castle Douglas, Kirkcudbrightshire.
    Remembered with honour
    ST. PIERRE-DU-VAUVRAY COMMUNAL CEMETERY

    Private GERALD NIXON

    6982044, 6th Bn., King's Own Scottish Borderers
    who died age 21
    on 28 August 1944
    Son of Edith Nixon, of Londonderry, Northern Ireland.
    Remembered with honour
    ST. PIERRE-DU-VAUVRAY COMMUNAL CEMETERY

    Private WILLIAM ERIC WHATLING

    14659839, 6th Bn., King's Own Scottish Borderers
    who died age 19
    on 28 August 1944
    Son of Mr. and Mrs. Arthur E. Whatling, of Fressingfield, Suffolk.
    Remembered with honour
    ST. PIERRE-DU-VAUVRAY COMMUNAL CEMETERY
     
  6. karl1968

    karl1968 Junior Member

    welcome to the forum
    Casualties below for that date

    Private FRED LOWIS

    3195163, 6th Bn., King's Own Scottish Borderers
    who died age 29
    on 28 August 1944
    Son of Richard and Mabel Lowis, of Darwen, Lancashire; husband of Alice Lowis, of Darwen.
    Remembered with honour
    ST. PIERRE-DU-VAUVRAY COMMUNAL CEMETERY


    Serjeant SAMUEL CRAWFORD

    3193257, 6th Bn., King's Own Scottish Borderers
    who died age 27
    on 28 August 1944
    Husband of Joseann Crawford, of Kelhead, Dumfriesshire.
    Remembered with honour
    ST. PIERRE-DU-VAUVRAY COMMUNAL CEMETERY

    Private JOHN DOCKRAY

    14376302, 6th Bn., King's Own Scottish Borderers
    who died age 20
    on 28 August 1944
    Son of Joseph and Margaret Dockray, of Workington, Cumberland.
    Remembered with honour
    ST. PIERRE-DU-VAUVRAY COMMUNAL CEMETERY

    Company Quartermaster Serjeant WILLIAM McMINN

    3181304, 6th Bn., King's Own Scottish Borderers
    who died age 46
    on 28 August 1944
    Son of Maxwell and Jessie McMinn; husband of Helen McMinn, of Castle Douglas, Kirkcudbrightshire.
    Remembered with honour
    ST. PIERRE-DU-VAUVRAY COMMUNAL CEMETERY

    Private GERALD NIXON

    6982044, 6th Bn., King's Own Scottish Borderers
    who died age 21
    on 28 August 1944
    Son of Edith Nixon, of Londonderry, Northern Ireland.
    Remembered with honour
    ST. PIERRE-DU-VAUVRAY COMMUNAL CEMETERY

    Private WILLIAM ERIC WHATLING

    14659839, 6th Bn., King's Own Scottish Borderers
    who died age 19
    on 28 August 1944
    Son of Mr. and Mrs. Arthur E. Whatling, of Fressingfield, Suffolk.
    Remembered with honour
    ST. PIERRE-DU-VAUVRAY COMMUNAL CEMETERY
    Thanks every body for your quick replies , i will try and contact the kosb for more info , thanks for the info about the deaths on that day , i knew a little bit about that , those are the other soldiers that fred is buried with .
     
  7. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    This is the war diary reference if you would like someone to look it up for you in the National Archives.
    WO 171/1322
    6 King's Own Scottish Borderers
    Covering dates1944 Jan.- Dec.
     
  8. karl1968

    karl1968 Junior Member

    Thanks owen , you people are unreal , i really apreciate that information .
     
  9. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    See this thread regards where 6 KOSB were on that date.
    http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/nw-europe/17161-2-gordons-crossing-seine-august-1944-a.html
    I know it's mainly about 2 Gordons but they were in same Div as 6 KOSB. 15th Scottish Div.
    I've rescanned the map & page 142 from Delaforce's ''Monty's Northern Legions'' to show where St Pieere du Vauray is & where 44 Bde including 6 KOSB crossed from Portjoie to Herqueville . 6 KOSB were across by 1100.

    http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=49600&d=1303986322

    http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=49601&d=1303986322
     

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  10. karl1968

    karl1968 Junior Member

    thanks owen , that is really helpful , i apreciate that .
     
  11. bart43945

    bart43945 Junior Member

    Having just returned to the forum after a long absence I spotted this and can perhaps throw a little more light on the matter. My father was a sapper/DR with 70 Field Co RE and from their War Diary I find that they were conducting ferrying operations on 27th and 28th August North of Louvier and particularly at Portejoie at 12.00 hrs on 28th-'One OR from this unit and six of KOSB drowned when boat floundered' If yoy would like a copy of relevant pages from the War Diary let me know.
     
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  12. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Having just returned to the forum after a long absence I spotted this and can perhaps throw a little more light on the matter. My father was a sapper/DR with 70 Field Co RE and from their War Diary I find that they were conducting ferrying operations on 27th and 28th August North of Louvier and particularly at Portejoie at 12.00 hrs on 28th-'One OR from this unit and six of KOSB drowned when boat floundered' If yoy would like a copy of relevant pages from the War Diary let me know.

    Hi, why not scan and post the page onto this thread :)
     
  13. bart43945

    bart43945 Junior Member

    Hi Drew
    How do I do that.
     
  14. bart43945

    bart43945 Junior Member

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  15. alain cauchy

    alain cauchy 2nd Bn Gordon Highlanders

    I am looking to find any information possible about my grandad Pte Fred Lowis 3195163 who was in the 6th battalion of the KOSB . He was drowned due to a battle accident on 28th august 1944 along with 5 other soldiers one of them being his quartermaster seargent W McMinn .His remains are in the cemetery in St Pierre Du Vauvary near Caen with the mentioned 5 . it would be unbeleivable to haer from some body who knew him or knew of him , heres hoping . Karl .
    Hi
    are you still interested about the crossing of the seine ?
    my law family lives near saint pierre and I know a lot aboput what happened the 27 /28 august 1944
    you can contact me as you want

    alain cauchy
     
  16. karl1968

    karl1968 Junior Member

    Hi
    are you still interested about the crossing of the seine ?
    my law family lives near saint pierre and I know a lot aboput what happened the 27 /28 august 1944
    you can contact me as you want

    alain cauchy

    HI ALAIN , SORRY I HAVE BEEN AWAY FOR A WHILE AND HAVE JUST SEEN YOUR REPLY TO MY POST . I WOULD LOVE TO FIND OUT AS MUCH INFO AS POSSIBLE ABOUT THE CROSSING IN WHICH MY GRANDAD PERISHED . YOU ARE FREE TO EMAIL ME IF YOU WISH AT karlduckworth@hotmail.com . I WOULD BE THRILLED TO HEAR ANYTHING THAT YOU KNOW . THANK YOU , KARL
     
  17. AdamkaWright

    AdamkaWright New Member

    Hi I am related to Gerald Nixon...I do not know much about him - other than the above - but thanks to this thread I now know the circumstances to his death ! Amazing, thanks, Adam
     
  18. amberdog45

    amberdog45 Senior Member

  19. RCG

    RCG Senior Member, Deceased

    The R.E. Chap.
    Harding Thomas Alfred.
    Rank: Lance Corporal
    Service No: 1888894
    Date of Death: 28/08/1944
    Age: 31
    Regiment/Service: Royal Engineers 70 Field Coy.
    Grave Reference: Grave 20.
    Cemetery:
    ST. PIERRE-DU-VAUVRAY COMMUNAL CEMETERY
    Additional Information:
    Son of Alfred and Elizabeth Mary Harding, of Penn, Buckinghamshire; husband of Kathleen Rose Harding of Penn.
     
  20. CNesbitt

    CNesbitt New Member

    Hi Alain

    My boyfriend is the Great grandson of Quartermaster Sergeant William McMINN and would be very interested in finding out more about what happened that night.

    CN
     

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