Poppy & Remembrance Service History.

Discussion in 'War Cemeteries & War Memorial Research' started by Rich Payne, Oct 28, 2009.

  1. Owen

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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2492536/Britains-longest-serving-Rememberance-Day-poppy-seller-91-75th-year.html

     
  2. canuck

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  3. The Scorer

    The Scorer Active Member

    "There was a great demand for the pamphlet “Remembrance Day – Poppy Day.” This contains portraits of the King, the Prince of Wales, and Lord Haig, Sir H Perry Robinsons article “The Unknown Warrior,” the poem “In Flanders Fields” by Colonel John McCrae, and pictures of the Cenotaph and the grave of the Unknown Warrior in Westminster Abbey and a reproduction of the suggestion for a war memorial by Raemaekers – a soldier crucified. Many copies of the pamphlet were autographed by Lord Haig and sold for large sums."


    Has anyone ever seen one of these, please?

    I'm sure that I haven't and, in fact, I don't think that I've heard of it before.
     
  4. Wills

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  5. Reid

    Reid Historian & Architectural Photographer

    This is my pin that I wear every November 11; inherited from my grandparents and believed to be from the 1940s.
    Although I don't buy one of the horrid Poppy Appeal items available here in AU, I do drop some cash into their collection box.
     

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  6. Drayton

    Drayton Senior Member

    Following the WW2 break in the Armistice Day tradition established from 1919, there was considerable discussion in autumn 1945 as to how the tradition might be renewed, or whether a new tradition overtly relating to WW2 should be established. Apart from the strong sentiment attached to 11 November, a particular difficulty about WW2 was rival claims for 8 May or 15 August.

    Eventually it was agreed by general consensus to continue with November, but with a variation that except when 11 November actually fell on a Sunday, the renamed Remembrance Day would be observed on the Sunday nearest 11 November (which always is the second Sunday in November). This implicitly recognised that 11 November itself was no longer a unique day for remembering the end of war, and also the urgent need for work to continue on weekdays to repair the ravages of war and rebuild the Britain for which both wars had supposedly been fought.
     
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  7. colinhotham

    colinhotham Senior Member

    I will be at Royal Air Force Blake Hill Farm here in Wiltshire on Sunday as usual. This long gone RAF station was used for the D-Day landings and ceased to exist many years ago. I will be honouring all the British, Canadian and United States forces that flew from this airfield in C47's and gliders.

    Colin
     
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  8. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

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  9. Brian Smith

    Brian Smith Junior Member

    I do not wish to be disrespectful and strongly believe we should have a remembrance day but, and this may just be me, having more than one day when events take place does seem to to dilute rather than strengthen the message. This year we have had Armistice Day events on the 11th, the BBC broadcast from the RAH on the 12th and Remembrance Sunday on the 13th. We do seem to be getting to a point of overkill which in turn tends to turn people off rather than get them involved.

    Just a footnote mention, we were in a large shop at 11am on the 11th and the gongs were sounded throughout the store, everyone except 2 people, who continued to shop and talk, immediately stopped and stood in silence, good to see respect remains. Brian
     
  10. dbf

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    The Sphere 04 November 1939
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  11. dbf

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    Morecambe Guardian, 12 October 1940
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  12. dbf

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    Yorkshire Post and Leeds Intelligencer, 29 October 1941
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  13. dbf

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    Banbury Advertiser 14 October 1942
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    Chelsea News and General Advertiser 30 October 1942
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  14. dbf

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    Coventry Standard 30 October 1943
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    Diss Express 29 October 1943
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    Hartlepool Northern Daily Mail, 26 October 1944
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  16. dbf

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    Bury Free Press 26 October 1945
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    Birmingham Daily Gazette, 24 October 1945
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  17. Drayton

    Drayton Senior Member

    From 1919 to 1938 Armistice Day, as it was generally known, was always observed on 11 November. In 1939 another war, seen by many as a continuation of the earlier one, took precedence over ceremonies.

    In 1945 there was much discussion as to appropriate annual observance of either war. Apart from choosing whether WW1 might be more or less significant than WW2, there was question whether the end of WW2 in Europe was more significant than the end of WW2 in the Far East.

    Eventually, a consensus was reached that the historic significance of November should be maintained, thus obviating any need to choose between May and August, but since the continuity of 11 November itself had already been broken, it would be simplest to keep observance on the Sunday nearest 11 November, which is always, not simply usually, the 2nd Sunday.

    At the same time, the name shifted from Armistice Day to Remembrance Sunday.
     
  18. Rich Payne

    Rich Payne Rivet Counter Patron 1940 Obsessive

    I see that the illustration to the first post has disappeared with photobucket and I can't edit as the post is a copy...This is the advert referred to :-

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  19. dbf

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    BBC Radio 3 - The Essay - Seven significant facts about poppies

    1. Poppies grow easily in poor soil and disturbed land.

    2. The destruction of World War One stopped poppies growing for four seasons. It was only once the war was over that poppies started to grow again. As the battlefields were churned-up, poppies grew back where people once had died.

    3. While most people know poppies for their association with WW1 and WW2, the flower has long been linked with young men dying too soon, especially in poems reflecting on war. In The Iliad, Homer described the death of a young Trojan prince as being like a "full-blown poppy, overcharg'd with rain", sinking to the ground.

    4. Commemorative poppies were a direct response to a poem - In Flanders Fields - published in the Christmas 1915 issue of Punch magazine by the Canadian doctor and soldier, John MacCrae.

    5. In 2014 crowds flocked to the Tower of London to see 888,246 ceramic poppies planted in the Tower's moat, each poppy representing a British military fatality during the war. The art installation, by Paul Cummins, with setting by stage designer Tom Piper, was called Blood Swept Lands and Seas of Red - the first line of a poem by an unknown war poet.
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    6. The popularity of the name Poppy for baby girls grew exponentially and peaked every November in the 1920s. But only 44 baby girls received the name during World War 2.

    7. One of the most powerful and poignant uses of poppy symbolism occurs every year at the Royal British Legion's Festival of Remembrance in the Royal Albert Hall: thousands of poppy petals flutter down from the roof of the hall to signal the two minutes' silence in memory of the fallen.
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  20. dbf

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    Illustrated London News 16 November 1940

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