please help, info William McQueeney

Discussion in 'Searching for Someone & Military Genealogy' started by TheBri, Dec 8, 2013.

  1. TheBri

    TheBri Member

    Hello members,
    I would like to ask for some help on a Paybook i recently got.

    I'm from holland and collector of military goods, ww2 and modern.
    Special interested in personal things and persons behind the things i get.
    Finding people is new for me, so any help is welcome.

    The paybook is from William McQueeney, born in Pendleton, Manchester, Lancashire.
    Born 11/5/1911.
    Army number 2126045
    Trade on enlistment; motor driver light.

    Medals; 1939-45 Star
    France Germany Star
    Defence Medal

    Adress: 8 Hartington Rd, Winton Eccles Manchester.

    I hope you can help me to find some family, military info or other info.
    Everything is welcome!

    Thanks in advance, have a nice day.

    Theo
     
  2. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Re member

    Death Index:
    England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 about William McQueeney
    Name: William McQueeney Birth Date: 11 May 1911 Date of Registration: Feb 1991 Age at Death: 79 Registration District: Salford Inferred County: Lancashire Volume: 39 Page: 1021

    This may be a marriage certificate for him, but as there is no age or date of birth I am uncertain if this is his or not - so beware of using this cert as fact!!

    England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005 about William McQueeney
    Name: William McQueeney Spouse Surname: Nicholls Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1939 Registration District: Barton Inferred County: Greater Manchester, Lancashire Volume Number: 8c Page Number: 1542 Find Spouse: Find Spouse
     
  3. ClankyPencil

    ClankyPencil Senior Member

    If the above is correct then he married Hilda H Nicholls 1939 at St Mary Magdalene's, Winton, Salford.
     
  4. ClankyPencil

    ClankyPencil Senior Member

    There was a W McQueeney still at this address in 1965 according to the Phone Directory.

    W McQueeney
    Address: 8 Hartington rd
    Exchange: ECCIes
    Directory Title: Manchester Nov
    Publication Year: 1965
    Directory County: Lancashire
    Page Number: 515
     
  5. ClankyPencil

    ClankyPencil Senior Member

    Two names listed for McQueeney in the 1933 directory for that area.
    One of them could be his father, but you would need his birth or wedding certificate to confirm

    James McQueeney
    Grocers assistant
    34 Rockley street, Pendleton

    Francis McQueeney
    Maker-up
    11 Chalfont street, Salford
     
  6. TheBri

    TheBri Member

    Great job gentlemen! The name Hilda is in his paybook, so we've got the right William McQueeney!
    Thank you very much so far!

    Now I would like to go on, searching family perhaps and ofcourse info on his military career.
    According to his medals he saw some action.

    Any suggestions about how to go on and help are welcome.
    Thanks again!
     
  7. ClankyPencil

    ClankyPencil Senior Member

    His Army number 2126045 i think indicates he started his Army career in the Royal Engineers.

    I am not that well versed with what information is included in a Pay book, but does it list any units he was with.

    Also does it state what religion he was? C of E, RC, etc?

    If he was RC then likely his burial details will be kept with the local (Salford) church authorities and they charge about £15 per search.

    If he was C of E or Non-comfomist, his details will be in the records of the Salford City Council, and they also charge about £15 per record.

    I've checked burials in cemeteries covered by Manchester City Council (which is free to search) and can't find him on there.
     
  8. TheBri

    TheBri Member

    Great! We're getting somewhere.. can we find out if his wife is stil living or if there are any children perhaps?
     
  9. TheBri

    TheBri Member

    Yes, he was RC.
     
  10. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Re member

    There is a good chance he may be of Irish descent

    Theo - if you wish I could do some more research on Ancestry.co.uk for his family - no guarantees though that I would find anything
     
  11. TheBri

    TheBri Member

    Hello dick (?),
    If you want to do that, it would be very kind of you. As i wrote, everything is welcome.
    Now he is just a name in a paybook, perhaps family or friends can tell me more about this man.
    Nothing to find about his war period? Couldn't find a unit in his paybook, what info thats in it could be of any use?
     
  12. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Re member

    Hi Theo,

    Just TD will do

    I have asked the question on the Ancestry site for others with family trees containing the same info on his parents, so we will see what comes back.

    Re his military info, as Clanky Pencil says - "His Army number 2126045 i think indicates he started his Army career in the Royal Engineers" Army Block Numbers Royal Engineers 1842001 - 2303000 you could apply for his records as a general enquirer (https://www.gov.uk/requests-for-personal-data-and-service-records#how-to-apply-for-service-personnel-records)

    TD

    edited to add:
    Have sent 4 emails via Ancestry.co.uk to other members with high possibility of family relationships to William
     
  13. ClankyPencil

    ClankyPencil Senior Member

    As he was RC, you could make an enquiry through below email address, as i think most RC burial records for the area are kept at the below cemetery. From the burial details you may be able to find more info about his family, or at least a location and from that i should be able to get you a grave photo.

    If they haven't got any details they should be able to point you in the right direction, but may want to still charge you £15 for the privilege.

    St Joseph's Cemetery
    Moston Lane,
    Moston,
    Manchester,
    M40 9QL.
    Telephone: 0161 681 1582 Email: cemeteries@salforddiocese.org

    You could also try posting your query in the Salford Cemeteries section on Rootschat.
    I have also posed your query on the Manchester & Salford Family History Forum which is where all the info i've posted was supplied from.

    Any chance you can scan the paybook and post it up on here?
     
  14. ClankyPencil

    ClankyPencil Senior Member

    If there are no units recorded on his paybook then looking at his medals, age and being in the engineers, i wouldn't be surprised if he was in a Bomb Disposal Unit, spending most of his time in the UK before moving to mainland europe. This is just a pure guess on my part and you would really need to get a copy of his service records to find out.
     
  15. TheBri

    TheBri Member

    Td and clancypencil, I'm impressed by the speed and amount of info you guys got today.
    I found out about this website a few weeks ago and never expected to be helped this friendly and professional.
    AL credits to you! I do have a few directions in witch i can search now, hopefully the family will be found because of the actions you made today.

    I can scan the paybook, no problem. Do that in the next few days. Will contact the cemetery!
    For now; good hight, to be continued..

    Thanks guys!
     
  16. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Re member

    Hi Theo,

    Progress Report

    I have had one response from a family tree on Ancestry, but I need them to confirm to me that this guy is a part of their family tree, because at present he does not appear on it .

    TD
     
  17. TheBri

    TheBri Member

    Hi td, many thanks for this update. I missed it because of the x-mas holidays.hope this is family, seems to be close as we can get for now..
     
  18. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Re member

    Hi Theo,

    I had a PM today on Ancestry from the one contact family tree he might be in. The major problem is that he was born in May 1911, and the census was taken in April 1911 - this being the latest free online accessible UK census, I don't think we want to wait until 2021 to answer this question :eek: ;) . Therefore it is difficult to know for my contact whether or not William is in fact a member of their family tree, unless a living relative remembers him. I have now given them the details from above of what we believe to be his brothers (names and address's) plus his details on address (from your post #1) for them to look into and get back to me.
    Still hoping for a good result.

    Happy New Year
    TD
     
  19. TheBri

    TheBri Member

    Hi TD, happy newyear to you.

    I'm impressed..
    Waiting now for the confirmation william is reletad to your contact, would be great isn't it.
    I hope so!

    Thanks again for still helping, very kind of you..
    Theo
     
  20. TheBri

    TheBri Member

    Td. Hello again! Was there any news on this item?
     

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