Pictures of Churchill Tanks.

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  1. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Quick shufti on Pathe:

    This is fab:

  2. KevinT

    KevinT Senior Member

    Hi Tom,

    I thought the 175 might be 107th RAC posiibly.


  3. Tom Canning

    Tom Canning WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran


    Actually the number 175 which prompted my posting appears to belong to the Canadian Regiment at Dieppe - why it rung a bell with me was the fact as we

    were moving towards the start of the Gothic Line Battles - we were asked to change our numbers to that of the 1st Cdn Armoured bde which was still at

    Florence trying to confuse Kesselring that the main thrust would be coming though Florence to Bologna - we had been on our way also to Florence

    when we did a 180 and finished up on the Adriatic side of Italy - with the Cdn numbers……didn't confuse Kesselring for too long as it only took him three

    days to hit us with his best Corps of 4th Paras - 26th PZ's and 29th PG's - thn the fun started…

  4. gaspirator

    gaspirator Member

    You are correct Tom!

    Attached is a 'then and now' of this scene of 1st Canadian Army Tank Brigade on the Downs at Eastbourne and more on my website: East Sussex wartime writers and artists (3)

    - Pete

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  5. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    'The Other side of the hill'...


  6. Owen

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  8. Combover

    Combover Guest

    Interesting to note that many of the Churchill pictures at Dieppe show the FACING the shore. This suggests they were on the way back after getting as far as they could rather than simply getting off the landing craft and getting stuck in the shingle.
  9. von Poop

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  10. BrianM59

    BrianM59 Senior Member

    Good lord - I have seen the newsreel of Hermanville on D-Day of which there is a still (B5040) above and joked that the AVRE in the traffic jam at the crossroads was probably my dad - but it looks as if 'Bulldog' there might be '3B' which was his tank - don't know enough about the Churchill to tell at a glance as the turret number is obscured, and I can't tell if it has the bridge carrying sponsons - is there any way anyone more knowledgeable than me can tell - I would come across this on the 70th anniversary....anyone help?
  11. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Ooh, splendid. I do like a bit of synchronicity.
    So let's get Bulldog blown up:

    bulldog large.jpg


    Can't see any funny fittings, though to be honest I haven't checked what I'm supposed to be looking for. Presumably the forward laid bridge? Which would possibly mean that bloke's standing where the joints would be...

    Churchill 'Bulldog' AVRE in Kevin's lists:

    5th Assault Regiment, Royal Engineers, 79th Armoured Division
    Infantry A22, Mk IV Churchill
    British Tanks in Normandy - Ludovic Fortin

    This one:

    77th Assault Squadron, 5th Assault Regiment, 79th Armoured Division
    Infantry A22, Mk IV Churchill Mk IV
    LCT 110
    Sgt. A. E. Myhill
    IWM MH009509

    Does that IWM picture # match the one here's "Catalogue number
    B 5040" ? Or has it changed - might be a different image...

    In passing - Duxford Churchill marked up as Bulldog 2B Bulldog:
  12. BrianM59

    BrianM59 Senior Member

    Adam - couldn't get a return on the IWM MH009509, but 2B was definitely 2 Troop bridge carrier and the 'Bulldog' name seems to put the tin hat on it. Interestingly though, Sgt Myhill had been killed earlier on D-Day, some say by shellfire and others by an MG burst after puting up a windsock. I answered a post on here last year from a relative of his wondering how he'd died, which is where I'd got in touch with Michel Sabarly. Eddie Myhill wasn't a close friend of my dad's, but it was a name he remembered and when I went over for the 60th D-Day commemorations, I visited his grave and do so every time I manage to get to Normandy.

    A while back I saw a newsreel which included the scene represented in the still you put up, of Hermanville la Breche and a traffic jam at that crossroads. I only saw it once and my wife spotted a face in the open hatch as a tank went past and she noted that it resembled my dad. I will go and have a look for that now, but thanks for the illumination on this one. I never knew of Kevin's lists, fascinating. I note also that when 77 Assault Squadron moved over to LVT Buffalos, they appear to have carried on naming them.
  13. leccy

    leccy Senior Member

    30 were supposed to land, 27 were landed (2 drowned and 1 could not disembark), 15 made it onto the promenade, 10 returned to the beach to carry on fighting.

    Not too bad considering the popular view is they were all stuck on the beach. Most suffered track and sprocket damage from the chert build up or German weapons fire.
    It is a AVRE modified to carry an SBG, it has the front bracket and rear mounted winch fitted.

    Just had a look at the 77th in 'Cracking Hitler's Atlantic Wall' and this tank is not mentioned in the section on them at least.
  14. m kenny

    m kenny Senior Member

    Nice 'then & now'

    Caption says 'Churchill tanks halted in Les Fains between Tilly-sur-Seulles and Villers Bocage July/August 1944' but it is slightly further west, Les Sapins and the junction of the D6/D92. The D6 (the road the Churchill is on) continues down to Villers Bocage and meets the road where all the RB Half-Tracks destroyed by Wittmann were lined up.

    polo61125_02_2015 06_12_34.jpg HU 104158 Les Fains,  between Tilly-sur-Seulles and Villers Bocage.jpg
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  15. m kenny

    m kenny Senior Member

    I found the above Churchill photo in the IWM 'HU' series which I believe to be any odd photo they have that is not in another series! There are lots of gems in this collection but the captions are all over the place.

    This for example. The year is 1944 not 1945 and the location is certainly not Caen. The month (August)is correct which gives the best clue as to its actual (quite famous) location

    HU 109817 sml.jpg

    'Sergeant Jimmy Mapham, a photographer with 5 AFPU, walks through the rubble of a Caen after the Allied army has passed through during the campaign in Normandy, August 1945. Note he is carrying his camera around his neck.'

    I have found the IWM search engine very difficult to use to try and find all the HU photos. A search is very hit or miss and it appears impossible to find all the HU series except by chance.
  16. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Any use, MK?
    Image search going to 'HU' pictures:

    Adding keywords after the HU in the search box can narrow quite well.

    eg. adding 'tanks':

    I may of course be suggesting something you tried, but it does seem to throw up a fair few not-so-familiar images. Bit hit & miss as it picks up all images on a page.
    Wildcard stars for the image number after 'HU' might also help. (Though I suspect they may restrict too much).******%22

    So, a few more Churchills:

    A Churchill tank of 3rd Battalion, Scots Guards named 'Pluto II' parades past the King and Queen and Princess Elisabeth at Buckingham Palace during 'Salute the Soldier' week, March 1944.

    A french sailor mans the radio in an advancing Churchill tank of 79th Armoured Division, during the assault on Boulogne, September 1944. French sailors helped to guide the vehicles towards their objective.

    British officers of 79th Armoured Division, confer with a French sailor during the assault on Boulogne, September 1944. One of the Division's Churchill tanks can be seen behind. French sailors helped to guide the vehicles towards their objective.
  17. leccy

    leccy Senior Member

    This image seems to be reversed

    'French sailor manning the radio'

  18. rick wedlock

    rick wedlock Member

    hi fella's

    I'm in need of a favour, whilst looking through your Churchill tank pics could you keep your eyes open for any of my MK4 AVRE T172427/B built in Sheffield in 1941. any pics or info would be gratefully received.



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  19. BrianM59

    BrianM59 Senior Member

    I have recently found that the well known picture of a Churchill AVRE at the La Breche crossroads on D-Day is in fact my dad's tank - AVRE 3B, the bridge tank of 3 Troop 77 Assault Squadron, named Bulldog. My sincere thanks to Michel Sabarly and Kevin Tucker for their detective work.

    In addition, I came across a newsreel which appears to show the same tank, I only got a fleeting glance at the time as it was on someone else's computer. Now I've tracked it down on YouTube here:
    at about a minute in. It zooms in to a face which I swear is my dad - he's in the right place, in the gunner/mortarman's seat in the right of the turret, peering out and not wearing a helmet, but a beret, as he was too tall at 6'1 or 2 and only wore the helmet when absolutely necessary.

    Does anyone recognise the newsreel? Would people agree that this is the same tank?

    Sorry about the multiple posts, but it's quite something to think you've seen a picture of your own father in action 70-odd years ago.
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  20. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Presumably this part, Brian?

    @Swiper seems to have been staring at Churchills a lot of late.
    Wonder if the clip might ring a bell for him.

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