Photo Restoration - Irish Guards

Discussion in 'Photo Restoration' started by saintconor, Sep 11, 2008.

  1. saintconor

    saintconor Senior Member

    Anyone any good at it and willing to have a try>

    Conor
     

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  2. handtohand22

    handtohand22 Senior Member

    Hows that?
     

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  3. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Edit: Sorry, cross-posted with H2H's more complete effort (Who must now also be intimately acquainted with these men's boots!)


    Not asking much?!

    Not the best from a small file, but an improvement I hope.
    Left some of the edges and most damage to faces due to time (and very tricky to get right without changing the appearance completely, the bloke in the Beret's beyond me.).
    Worst tears have to be 'reconstructed'... just noticed I somehow obliterated the 4th chap's rifle while noodling with this.
    Oops
    Larger file attached.

    Cheers,
    Adam.
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    Saint Conor Irish Guards 2.jpg
     
  4. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    You know what's going to happen now chaps don't you?

    Stand by for more requests.
    Good work both of you.
     
  5. saintconor

    saintconor Senior Member

    Two fanatastic efforts and a great improvement on the original. Thankyou very much.

    Conor
     
  6. Paul Reed

    Paul Reed Ubique

    Conor - looks like a post-WW2 photo?

    Nice effort, gents!
     
  7. marcus69x

    marcus69x I love WW2 meah!!!

    Brilliant work lads. The difference is unreal. I wouldn't have thought you could get it so clean. Spot on.
     
  8. CROONAERT

    CROONAERT Ipsissimus

    Pirbright? Somewhere between 1953 and 1965?

    Do you know who they are Conor? (Scots guards and Welsh Guards present there too)

    Dave
     
  9. Capt.Sensible

    Capt.Sensible Well-Known Member

  10. CROONAERT

    CROONAERT Ipsissimus

    The SLR didn't come into service until 1957 so photo presumably post-dates 1957:
    British military rifles - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    CS


    most likely, yes (I originally put 1956 in my post (i'm positive that Wikipedia has the wrong year there for general issue, but may be wrong) , but changed it upon remembering that my dad mentioned an issue of them just before he left the army (1953) on a trial basis to units such as....the guards). Something about the photo that says "1960's" to me though.

    Any idea when the guards changed from the standard dark blue beret of the 1940s and 50s to the cow-sh** that they wear today (and have done since as far back as I know for sure (1970's)). Just asking because of the beret wearing guy on the left - that could help date it for sure (unless he's not passed out yet).

    (I presume that they may have still been wearing the '37 patt web belts post 1958 and so haven't used these as a clue to the date - should I have done?)


    Dave
     
  11. Capt.Sensible

    Capt.Sensible Well-Known Member

    most likely, yes (I originally put 1956 in my post (i'm positive that Wikipedia has the wrong year there for general issue, but may be wrong) , but changed it upon remembering that my dad mentioned an issue of them just before he left the army (1953) on a trial basis to units such as....the guards). Something about the photo that says "1960's" to me though.

    Any idea when the guards changed from the standard dark blue beret of the 1940s and 50s to the cow-sh** that they wear today (and have done since as far back as I know for sure (1970's)). Just asking because of the beret wearing guy on the left - that could help date it for sure (unless he's not passed out yet).

    (I presume that they may have still been wearing the '37 patt web belts post 1958 and so haven't used these as a clue to the date - should I have done?)


    Dave

    Difficult to tell with the Guards about details of uniform. The photo appears to show 37 pattern belts but the 58 webbing belts were pretty damn similar. Of all the units in the Army of the time the Guards were probably least likely to enthusiaitically take up the SLR for ceremonial duties so the date 1957 may be a lttle early. I know what you mean about the 1960's, it just has the right look. The shirts appear to be No.2 shirts in brown, rather than the KF working shirts in green.

    CS
     
  12. saintconor

    saintconor Senior Member

    Thanks for the interest. This picture was taken at Pirbright between 1958 and 1961 when my Grandfather was in the Irish Guards Platoon of the Junior Guards Company. The five 'Boys' in the main picture are from left to right:

    Mervyn Collier RIP (IG),Welsh Guard,Michael Comelio (IG),My Grandfather RIP (IG), Welsh Guard.

    He left Pirbright in 1961 to join his Battalion.
     
  13. saintconor

    saintconor Senior Member

    What do you all think of the restoration? If anyone needs any work done I can put you in touch with gent. He is a pro. The file is too large to upload it but you can view it here

    Irish Guards
     
  14. CROONAERT

    CROONAERT Ipsissimus

    looks good, Conor.

    Wonder if he could do anything with my grandad?
     

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  15. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    What do you all think of the restoration? Irish Guards
    It's a good job but I'm never that comfortable with colourisation. I just never saw anything wrong with good old silver halide.
    Restoration I can understand, but adding colour always seems unnecesary to me and when done too well, as some are, can even distort the record with speculative shades.
    S'funny as contemporary retouching I have no problem with, I've many Victorian tinted shots that I quite like, just this fiddling about after the event that I'm not keen on.

    A question of tastes I suppose. :D

    Cheers,
    Adam.
     
  16. saintconor

    saintconor Senior Member

    Im sure he could mend your Grandads photograph if you wished. He does charge a small fee though.

    I agree Adam, its a question of taste. I do quite like colourisation but I also have the restored photo in b/w. Best of both worlds :0)
     
  17. handtohand22

    handtohand22 Senior Member

    Hows That?
     

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  18. CROONAERT

    CROONAERT Ipsissimus

    Excellent! Cheers for that!.

    Dave
     
  19. drumaneen

    drumaneen Senior Member

    Send a bigger file if ya need more
     

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  20. drumaneen

    drumaneen Senior Member

    Best I could do in the time I had - tried to preserve original patina
     

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