Photo of Miss Margaret Helen Fielden

Discussion in 'The Women of WW2' started by silvia alineri, Oct 17, 2017.

  1. I'm searching for a photo of Miss Margaret Helen Fielden, member of Chartered Society of Physiotherapy who now rests in the British Military Cemetery of Milan, (Commonwealth.)
    I really would like to find a photo of her, I know all her story and I go praying on her grave every week.
    She died in Milan on 29 th september 1945, she was born in Godalming , Surrey, on 3 June 1917.
    Please, isn't anyone helping me??
    Thank you so much.

    Silvia
     
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  2. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Well-Known Member

    Yoy could try (if you haven't already) contacting this site and asking if she appears in any of the journals or perhaps her registration/personal file has a photo of her - Life during Wartime

    TD
     
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  3. amberdog45

    amberdog45 Senior Member

    Hi Silvia, just posting the CWGC link for others to see. I've had a quick search of the British Newspaper Archives, but no photo there unfortunately.

    Casualty

    This could be her parents on the 1939 Identification Register, the 2nd entry at the bottom. findmypast.co.uk
     
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  4. BarbaraWT

    BarbaraWT Member

    That's a beautiful thing to do.
     
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  5. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

  6. Thank you for your kindness, Miss Margaret is just like a sister for me , she' the only woman resting in that cemetery among more than 400 soldiers..I'm a doctor and I can imagine the great sacrifice she did for everyone of us, now and yesterday.
    I only would like to think of her with a real face..That's all.Thank you for whatever you'll do for me.
     
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  8. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    Newspaper notice 5 Oct 1945: Screen Shot 2017-10-17 at 15.17.27.png
    Source: Ancestry.com. England, Andrews Newspaper Index Cards, 1790-1976
     
  9. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    Civilian (Miss.)FIELDEN, MARGARET HELEN
    Died 29/09/1945

    Aged 28

    Chartered Society of Physiotherapy

    attd. 64 Brit. Gen. Hospital

    Daughter of Perceval Fielden and Edith Esther Fielden, of Godalming, Surrey.


    INSCRIPTION
    COME DOWN, O LOVE DIVINE"
    Casualty
     
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  10. You've been very kind to send me this paper notice, but this is not the person I'm looking for, 'cause Margaret's father was Mr.Thomas Perceval (T.P!).I had already found the same notice, but unfortunately she' not the young woman resting in the British military cemetery of Milan...Thank you so much.
    Silvia
     
  11. Thank you so much for your answer, unfortunately I already knew all the details you sent me and many others about Miss Fielden's life, but I still haven't found out how she really died.. The Chartered society can't answer me..
    Thank you a lot.
     
  12. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    Yes I have posted the info to give forum members more information to assist you.

    Your answer will be in obtaining her death certificate.

    I have emailed CWGC to see if they can add any further info.

    Also the British way of announcing a married couple is to use the mans name followed by surname

    example
    John Smith
    Edith Smith
    Would be written as Mr and Ms J Smith using the mans christian name initial J.

    So the news paper notice states Dr and Mrs J.P.Fielden
    another quirk (possibly British) is that sometimes the person prefers to use their middle name as their first name .

    So although the initials in the newspaper cutting are slightly different it would be quite a coincidence that 2 people of the same name died on the same day in the same town particularly whilst in another country.
    Also in the newspaper cutting are the initials CSP (Chartered Society of Physiotherapy)
    The cause of death was Polio
    However anything is possible


    regards
    Clive
     
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  13. Cee

    Cee Senior Member Patron

    Hi,

    There is an article in a Milan newspaper that gives a little more detail on Margaret's father, Thomas Perceval Fielden.

    Milano, il mistero di Margaret: l'unica donna sepolta nel cimitero di guerra

    A google translation of the relevant passage:

    "Commonwealth War Grave Commission documents, the intergovernmental organization that still has the task of identifying, recording and storing tombs and commemoration sites of Commonwealth Army personnel who died during the First and Second World War, say the essence of her: we know that her parents were called Edith Esther Fielden and Perceval Fielden. Father's name - it's just a suggestion - refers to musician Thomas Perceval Fielden (1883-1974), pianist, music teacher, and director of three schools including the Charterhouse College of Godalming, Margaret's birthplace. He also served, between 1943 and 1945, the Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve as a sergeant."

    Notice they say it's just a suggestion. Thomas P. Fielden also has a Wikipedia entry with more detail. According to Diane's clipping he is titled a Doctor. He was a professor with a considerable reputation in the music field, though there is no mention of a Ph.D. The news clipping may have got his first initial wrong. Infantile paralysis is just another name for polio.

    Regards...
     
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  14. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    Screen Shot 2017-10-19 at 18.10.24.png
    Source Information:
    Ancestry.com. England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995
     
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  15. Thank you dear friend, I'm Italian and probably I've got some difficulties with your language, so I regret, but I still can't understand how it's possibile that Thomas Perceval Fielden can be written using the name initial J.P...Anyway, it may be a mistake, I don't know..Thank you a lot, I hope to get some more info about it...Keep in touch!
     
  16. Dear friend, I know this article very well, because it's mine...I mean, I left an interview to the italian journalist just to get more info about Margaret! There's another article on "Corriere della Sera",on 30 th September that I personally wrote to make everybody know about her, in memory of her death, 29 September 1945...
    I hope you'll read..
     
  17. Thank you for this info, I had already found it in Ancestry.com. I'm convincing myself that that article about Margaret's death for polio did really talked about her...
     
  18. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    First name(s) Margaret H
    Last name Fielden
    Death year 1945
    Rank -
    Unit or regiment -
    Volume 4
    Page 170
    Record set British Nationals Armed Forces Deaths 1796-2005
    Source FindMyPast, GRO War Death Army Officers Indices (1939 to 1948)

    Using this info, volume and page, you can order a copy of the death certificate, which might confirm Cause of Death.



    First name(s) MARGARET H
    Last name FIELDEN
    Birth year 1917
    Birth quarter 3
    Registration month -
    Mother's last name Stapley
    District Cheltenham
    County Gloucestershire
    Country England
    Volume 6A
    Page 554

    Source FindMyPast, England & Wales Births 1837-2006


    First name(s) THOMAS P
    Last name FIELDEN
    Marriage quarter 4
    Marriage year 1912
    Registration month -
    MarriageFinderâ„¢ THOMAS P FIELDEN married Edith E Stapley
    Spouse's last name Stapley
    District Truro
    District number -
    County Cornwall
    Country England
    Volume 5C
    Page 296
    Source FindMyPast, England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005


    First name(s) THOMAS PERCEVAL
    Last name FIELDEN
    Gender Male
    Birth day 14
    Birth month 11
    Birth year 1882
    Age -
    Death quarter 3
    Death year 1974
    District Gloucester
    County Gloucestershire
    Volume 22
    Page 1729
    Country England
    Source FindMyPast, England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007

    A copy of this certificate might supply name of relative: often the person registering the death will give details - name, address and relationship to the deceased.



    With the possibility that Margaret (Peggy) Fielden might have had siblings (whose family might have photos) - there are two results (other than hers) for births with Father's surname as Fielden and mother's maiden name as Stapley -
    Screen Shot 2017-10-19 at 19.01.07.png
    Source FindMyPast, England & Wales Births 1837-2006
     
  19. amberdog45

    amberdog45 Senior Member

    Same information I found Diane, but I was reluctant to post due to the J. P. initials that turned up in the death notice. I guess we can assume the "J" initial was an error made by the newspaper.

    I believe her mother died in the St. Albans area, age 75 in 1962.

    Margaret's sister Katharine died the same year she was born 1915.

    Unfortunately there are two potential marriages for her brother Richard J. Fielden. One marriage to a lady called Hinchliffe in the Surrey area in 1943 or a 1944 marriage to a lady called Westall in the Haslingden district.
     
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