Paratroopers murdered in Herouvillette

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  1. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot Patron 1940 Obsessive

    Hi Andrew,

    Any chance you can you not post the file on here for everyone?

    Cheers
    Andy
     
  2. roodymiller

    roodymiller Senior Member

    Sorry I cannot post the article, anyone needing my help please email me directly.
     
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  3. jimbos1

    jimbos1 Junior Member

    any idea if my uncle james (JIM) MUNRO was tere please,, ive heard the story from him but not too sure if that is right,,, i need to find out more info on 1st batallion sas in which he was iN, MANY THANKS
     
  4. MartW

    MartW Junior Member

    Hi,
    I'm currently working an a essay on this topic for school. I'm currently cornered an in need of more information who is murdered.
    Mart
     
  5. Delage

    Delage Junior Member

    Maggi

    I will email you the pdf file by Carl Rymen, your father is mentioned in there.

    Andrew
    Hello ! I am a new member, from France; living near Caen. Actually, most of my childhood's sundays have been spent in Hérouvillette, where my godmother had a farm. I sometimes visit the cemetery where she is burried, and always look with great emotion at the graves of these "children" killed. The sad thing about June 6th 1944 is that my godmother's son has been killed (actually, wounded, died on June 13th on the hospital ship en route for England, burried in Kingston cemetery in Portsmouth). My godmaother knew what happened to her son in 1950 !!!but she had made many enquiries and wrote the "story" of what happened on that day in the evening. An ambulance and a surviving English Lieutenant are mentionned, people (civilian and soldiers) seem to have been left wounded all over the night, being rescued on June 7th in the morning. It seems that many soldiers were killed there. The location is very precise. I'll translate her 2 pages in English, if this is of any interest for you. If you have any other informations, I would be pleased to share them with you.
    On behalf of the English families who would need it, i can also put some flowers on the graves, as I visit the village cemetery from times to times.
     
  6. Gebirgsjaeger

    Gebirgsjaeger Senior Member

    That reminds me somehow on the war crimes of the other SS units "Goetz von Berlichingen" und "Das Reich" during the Operations Bulbasket and Loyton. Gruesome!
     
  7. Gebirgsjaeger

    Gebirgsjaeger Senior Member

    Found this but it didn´t mention the above made crimes against British POW´s. Maybe that it was posted somewhere before.
     

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  8. sapper

    sapper WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    I never witnessed any atrocities by British troops....Nor did I hear of any taken against the enemy. But there was a reluctance to take prisoners in the heat of battle.In every instance once captured the enemy was treated decently. But in the heat of the fighting anything goes...
     
  9. Gebirgsjaeger

    Gebirgsjaeger Senior Member

    But in the heat of the fighting anything goes...

    Very wise said!
     
  10. brithm

    brithm Senior Member

    Found this on the 716 website (link below) is this the unit at the farm, it sounds like them.


    "...The troops occupying the C.P. Of the 1./Pi 716 in Herouvillette, consisting of one officer, 4 non-commissioned officers and 15 men immediately engaged the British parachute troops, took a number of prisoners, some of which still with their parachutes; by means of fire and counter attack they cleared some of the area around them, captured two machine guns and so could hold their own against a superior enemy until reinforced arrived."


    Measures taken
     
  11. Wills

    Wills Very Senior Member

    This is another of those that may open old wounds. After the surrender Eisenhower made it clear how he felt about Germans and issued orders that were unacceptable to the British and Canadian commanders 'afford them no shelter and he ordered a reduction in rations. The order suggested that POW status be removed and 'disarmed hostiles' be used. The mortality rate in US camps was four times that of British/Canadian camps. There was not the blanket hatred amongst British officers, who in many cases viewed their counterparts as soldiers under orders. They also knew that the only way to get Germany up and back on it's feet was going to have to be using the very people in their 'care', I am not making a comment on who was right or wrong, just that the documentation is there be it right or wrong!
     
  12. sapper

    sapper WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    For those of us that were around immediately post war. They may recall that we were very short of everything, fuel, food, the lot!

    At the same time we were sending aid to Germany to prevent starvation. Similarly and earlier in the war, we agreed with the enemy an arrangement that allowed our Lancaster's to fly in food to the Netherlands. For they were in a very bad state.
     
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  13. matsvaba

    matsvaba New Member

    Hi everybody

    I must make an history excercise about the Finkenrath murdings on POW's , especially on Dennis Russon, at D-day.
    Can anybody help me.

    kind regards.
     
  14. Ben_Mayne

    Ben_Mayne Member

    Maggi,

    Did you ever find any further information out on this? I have recently obtained records on this matter and may have information for you.

    Regards

    Ben
     
  15. Isaacs

    Isaacs New Member

    Hi, my name is Mike Isaacs and my grandfather John Isaacs was killed at Herouvillette on D-Day. I would be interested in having a copy of the Carl Rumen PDF that has been mentioned & also to contact any members whose relatives were also killed at this time, particularly Ben Mayne & Maggi who have posted previously. My email is: mikebisaacs AT yahoo.co.uk
     
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  16. Tullybrone

    Tullybrone Senior Member

    I’ve sent OP a PM suggesting he replaces the @ in his email with ‘at’ to avoid bots harvesting his email address.

    Steve
     
  17. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

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