Fooling around outside one afternoon last fall and came up with this : http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8415&stc=1&d=1209851849 http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8412&stc=1&d=1209851849 http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8413&stc=1&d=1209851849 http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8414&stc=1&d=1209851849 Tamiya KV-1c, and lead (Valiant I think) figure. razorboy