What do you think to this? I feel ashamed being from this part of the Country. Bomber Command lost over 55,000 men. And I'm proud of them! BBC NEWS | England | Lincolnshire | Pacifists oppose bomber memorial
What do you think to this? I feel ashamed being from this part of the Country. Bomber Command lost over 55,000 men. And I'm proud of them! BBC NEWS | England | Lincolnshire | Pacifists oppose bomber memorial Just another opportunity for the people who have the right to demonstrate, to forget who fought to give them that right.
Spidge, that is damn right! How dare that little streak of snot say such things about the Bomber Command people. He woudl have been a whiner durign the war, and not a true pacifist, many of whom did the most dangerous jobs without any way to protect themselves. Shame we aren't at war, he could be taken out back and shot.
This is something that I HATE about some people. When our soldiers are protecting them and their liberty, they cheer, line the streets and bless them as heros, but when the wars are over they completely forget the sacrifices that were made so that they could be free. I like the bit were the bomber veteran says: "I would invite anyone who feels like that to get into a confined space in a bomber then have the doors close on a flight that's five, six or seven hours long while people constantly try to bring you down." This is disgrace. I'm having to stop myself from sending hate mail to that bunch of un gratful idiots. Kitty is right. In war a lot of TRUE pacifists worked as ambulance drivers and strecher bearers, which were both very dangerous jobs. These scum should be shot!!! I hope that they come on this website and see how offended some of us are by thier rubbish. Sorry i ranted a bit.
This is disgrace. I'm having to stop myself from sending hate mail to that bunch of un gratful idiots. Kitty is right. In war a lot of TRUE pacifists worked as ambulance drivers and strecher bearers, which were both very dangerous jobs. These scum should be shot!!! I hope that they come on this website and see how offended some of us are by thier rubbish. Sorry i ranted a bit. These people think they are right, yet they are doing it under the shroud of protection that these men gave their lives for. "Lest we forget" is not just for those who fought and those that paid the ultimate price, it is for all victims of war. Let us not forget the carnage, let us not forget the perpetrators of war, let us not forget those who fought to give us the freedom that we enjoy today. Memorials do not glorify war, they remind us of the futility of war.
Wan*ers is the word. Mealy-mouthed one-track-minded busybodies who, blinded by their intense belief in their own rightness feel they can interfere wherever they see fit. Pacifism as a whole is not necesarily a bad thing, there have been many pragmatic pacifists, these are not that kind. I see on their website they also promote the dreaded 'White poppy', something else I find massively insulting and thought had been driven away in the early 90's. Give me one of Harris's men over 1000 of these fools. Makes your fists itch. Here endeth the rant. Cheers, Adam Memorials do not glorify war, they remind us of the futility of war.
Paraphrasing the last verse of Siegrfied Sassoon's 1917 work would be appropriate: "You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye Who cheer when soldier lads march by, Sneak home and pray you'll never know The hell where youth and laughter go." War is a nasty business and mistakes are made, none-the-less those who live today owe a debt that is without measure to those who gave their lives during WW II. I am deeply saddened.
I think part of this commemoration is almost distinguishing between good bombs and bad bombs. Run this by me a pacifist says there is a difference between good and bad bombs?? I think the idea of commemorating, almost in a celebratory way, the killing The memorials says those who gave their lives? The Peace Pledge Union has said that commemorating the deaths of large numbers of people was not appropriate in the modern age. So we shouldn't remember the bomber crews then. Nice considerate attitude to take. Then again it might have a point - it's not in vogue to remember them - yes modern pig headed attitude. I'm all right Jack ..........Funny I can't recall seeing where we were commemorating deaths of large numbers of people , remembering people's sacrifice. For our clown superior to have the freedom to air his views others have been shot blown up etc. So he can wind up genuine people. Perhaps when he wakes up he will realise that though peace is a cherished thing, those who have been on the front line , cherish it far far more than he ever will. Perhaps to use Orwell "They sleep safely in their beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do them harm"
That is just Bulls**t, not saying any more as I have already emailed them to tell them exactly that. action for peace
I think it's a good time to quote the famous poem: I went into a public-'ouse to get a pint o'beer, The publican 'e up an' sez, 'We serve no red-coats here.' The girls be'ind the bar they laughed an' giggled fit to die, I outs into the street again an' to myself sez I: O it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' 'Tommy, go away'; But it's 'Thank you, Mister Atkins,' when the band begins to play- The band begins to play, my boys, the band begins to play, O it's 'Thank you, Mister Atkins,' when the band begins to play. I went into a theatre as sober as could be, They gave a drunk civilian room, but 'adn't none for me; They sent me to the gallery or round the music-'alls; But when it comes to fightin', Lord! they'll shove me in the stalls! For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' 'Tommy wait outside'; But it's 'Special train for Atkins' when the trooper's on the tide- The troopship's on the tide, my boys, the troopship's on the tide, O it's 'Special train for Atkins' when the trooper's on the tide. Yes, makin' mock o' uniforms that guard you while you sleep Is cheaper than them uniforms, an' they're starvation cheap; An' hustlin' drunken soldiers when they're goin' large a bit Is five times better business than paradin' in full kit. Then it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' 'Tommy, 'ow's yer soul?' But it's 'Thin red line of 'eroes' when the drums begin to roll- The drums begin to roll, my boys, the drums begin to roll, O it's 'Thin red line of 'eroes' when the drums begin to roll. We aren't no thin red 'eroes, nor we aren't no blackguards too, But single men in barricks, most remarkable like you; An' if sometimes our conduck isn't all your fancy paints, Why, single men in barricks don't grow into plaster saints; While it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' 'Tommy, fall be'ind,' But it's 'Please to walk in front, sir,' when there's trouble in the wind- There's trouble in the wind, my boys, there's trouble in the wind, O it's 'Please to walk in front, sir,' when there's trouble in the wind. You talk o' better food for us, an' schools, an' fires, an' all: We'll wait for extry rations if you treat us rational. Don't mess about the cook-room slops, but prove it to our face The Widow's Uniform is not the soldier-man's disgrace. For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' 'Chuck him out, the brute!' But it's 'Saviour of 'is country' when the guns begin to shoot; An' it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' anything you please; An' Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool-you bet that Tommy sees! Rudyard Kipling
A follow up. Posting the third verse of "Suicide in the Trenches" has set me thinking. Albert Beale's efforts are akin to, and pointless as, those 'revisionists' who wanted to change 'kindling' with 'glistening'. The tens of thousands who died in the sky were bravely following orders!
I just E-mailed the following person, who i beleive is one of the co-ordinators of the Peace union: jan@ppu.org.uk
The glory of political correctness and those who find fault in everything... Those people are in the same realm as those who vandalise war memorials and war graves. I dont care which side a man fought on. His death should be remembered... Once we forget how bad war is, it tends to be visited upon us. So glad I left the UK... People like that make you ashamed to be British.
Just to follow up on the link this morning. Enjoy. BBC NEWS | England | Lincolnshire | Bombing crews unveil war memorial "And now in the hallowed precincts of Lincoln Cathedral for this poignant unveiling ceremony. It is absolutely wonderful."
I have spread this story around on all the forums i'm a member of and most of the people agree with me and many have sent PPU E-mails saying how disgusted they are. Here are some links: 95th Rifle Regiment of Foot Forums-viewtopic-Pacifists :twisted: Disgusting - jolt.co.uk public forums
See all those people should be made to volunteer their Liberal asses to join the Peace Korps and put their sweat where their mouth is.
