out of place head stone

Discussion in 'War Cemeteries & War Memorial Research' started by reddevon, Aug 4, 2013.

  1. reddevon

    reddevon Member

    On a recent visit to Portland i went through the Royal Navy cemetery and spotted this gravestone and thought it was slightly out of place and so far from his home, anybody got any ideas why he is there in Dorset?

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  2. idler

    idler GeneralList

  3. idler

    idler GeneralList

    There is obviously one inaccuracy in this HMS Isis casualty list in that Brand is listed as missing presumed killed, as are all but one of the other casualties.

    It also seems odd that he has a NZ headstone despite being listed as RN.
     
  4. reddevon

    reddevon Member

    Looking at the memorial i noticed that there are about another eight men from New Zealand, and Ordinary Seaman Thomas E Brand is mentioned on the left hand door. Is it possible that his body was washed up or found in the Lyme Bay area and there for buried on land?
     
  5. idler

    idler GeneralList

    It's possible, though I'd assumed that his body was recovered by another ship and dropped off as they went about their business.
     
  6. KevinBattle

    KevinBattle Senior Member

    The sobering aspect is reading the two survivors accounts.
    Shaking for an entire three weeks and still going back.... I hope they still make 'em like that!
     
  7. idler

    idler GeneralList

    That second account sounds like Merchant Navy rather than Royal. Perhaps there was also an SS Isis? Can't lay my hands on British Ship Losses at the moment so will have a look tonight.
     
  8. andy007

    andy007 Senior Member

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  9. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    Andy well done
    thank you


    FULL NAME


    Thomas Eric Brand


    RANK LAST HELD


    Ordinary Seaman


    FORENAME(S)


    Thomas Eric


    SURNAME


    Brand


    WAR


    World War II, 1939-1945


    SERIAL NO.


    NZ 8612


    GENDER


    Male


    PLACE OF BIRTH


    Clive, Hawke's Bay, New Zealand


    RELIGION


    Church of England


    FIRST KNOWN RANK


    Ordinary Seaman


    MARITAL STATUS


    Single


    ENLISTMENT DATE


    1943


    AGE ON ENLISTMENT


    18


    MILITARY DISTRICT


    Clive


    BODY ON EMBARKATION


    Royal New Zealand Navy


    EMBARKATION UNIT


    HMS Patroller


    EMBARKATION DATE


    February 1944


    PLACE OF EMBARKATION


    Wellington, New Zealand


    VESSEL


    HMS Patroller


    DESTINATION


    Durban, South Africa


    MILITARY TRAINING


    HMNZS Tamaki


    CAMPAIGNS


    Normandy


    LAST UNIT SERVED


    Royal Navy, HMS Isis


    PLACE OF DEATH


    English Channel


    DATE OF DEATH


    20 July 1944


    AGE AT DEATH


    19


    YEAR OF DEATH


    1944


    CAUSE OF DEATH


    Killed in action


    CEMETERY NAME


    Portland Royal Naval Cemetery, Dorset, England


    GRAVE REFERENCE


    Church of England portion, Grave 758


    MEMORIAL NAME


    Portsmouth Cathedral


    OBITUARY


    Thomas Brand was reported as having lost his life as a result of enemy action in the New Zealand Herald dated 16 August 1944.


    BIOGRAPHICAL NOTES


    • He was the son of Thomas Dempster Brand and Maud Amelia Brand, of Clive, Hawke's Bay, New Zealand.
    • Enlisted October/November 1943
    • On embarkation Ordinary Seaman Brand's occupation was that of a 4.7 gun crew
    • T.E. Brand died when his ship HMS Isis sank off the coast of Normandy.


    DESCRIPTION OF IMAGE


    Portrait, Weekly News


    ADDITIONAL INFORMATION


    • HMS Isis was part of the naval operations around Crete in April and May 1941 aimed at preventing a seaborne landing on Crete by the Germans. Isis was specifically engaged in the reinforcement and supply of Allied troops. The role the ship played in the events off Crete was recognised when battle honours were awarded after the war and she was listed as third of all warships and first of all the many small ships in the Admiralty Fleet Order concerned (see J.H. Spencer's Battle for Crete, p.212).
    • The Destroyer Isis was sunk by a mine (or possibly a Neger) off the beaches of Normandy on 20 July 1944. Ten New Zealanders were lost when she sank. They are commemorated in the cathedral in Portsmouth, England and also in Arromanches, France where a wreath is laid each year.


    SOURCES USED


    • McKenzie, R. (1970). And quiet now their rest. Wellington, Govt. Printer.
    • Commonwealth War Graves Commission. URL: http://www.cwgc.org

    http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/Cenotaph/19120.detail?Ordinal=1&c_surname_search=brand&c_firstname_search=t.e.&c_warconflict_search=%22world+war+ii,+1939-1945%22
     

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  10. reddevon

    reddevon Member

    excellent info chaps, but why out of a whole ships company is he the only one buried at Portland?
     
  11. idler

    idler GeneralList

    One of the links mentioned only 20 or so survivors - I assumed the remainder went down with the ship. The destroyer casualty roll listed one 'died of wounds' and it looks like he was buried 'at home' - not really an option for a Kiwi like Brand at that time.
     
  12. BrianM59

    BrianM59 Senior Member

    There was of course a big naval hospital at Portland and if he died of wounds, that would account for the grave being there - but 20th July was the date the ship was sunk, so either he was wounded and died on the way home - Portland being the operational base that the recovering ship returned to - or his body was picked up by a Portland based ship?
     

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