Orders of Battle

Discussion in 'Research Material' started by Gerard, Feb 12, 2009.

  1. Gerard

    Gerard Seelow/Prora

    Here is a site that deals with the Orders of Battle and organisations for most of the combatant nations of WW2. It seems fairly comprehensive at least for the German side of things:
    Index of Organizations
     
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  2. Heimbrent

    Heimbrent Well-Known Member

    Yay! Thanks :)
    Q: Can anyone tell me whether the signs used there are German/WW2 or modern?

    *edit* nvm, I think I figured it out...
     
  3. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Thats some site GH.....Saved to my Fav's :)

    Cheers
    Andy
     
  4. Gerard

    Gerard Seelow/Prora

    Yay! Thanks :)
    Q: Can anyone tell me whether the signs used there are German/WW2 or modern?

    *edit* nvm, I think I figured it out...
    Are they WW2 or modern, you've now piqued my curiousity. I'm guessing they are WW2.
     
  5. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    I thought that one was already in the links Ger... but apparently not - I'll rectify that tonight.

    Looks like the Trux site is the only one I've yet put in dedicated to organisation, could probably do with improving what's a bit of a gap there.

    Few more from the favourites list:
    Bayonet Strength.
    Orders of Battle
    British & Commonwealth Orders of Battle
    France, 1940
    Norway
    Sweden
    ??

    Not much cop at TOEs, Organisation ietc. so don't really know how good these resources are.
    Anyone got any more recommendations?

    There used to be an excellent visual organisation site that could be switched to show 1:1 icons for each man, truck, etc. I could follow that - seems to be defunct now though.
     
  6. Heimbrent

    Heimbrent Well-Known Member

  7. Tom Canning

    Tom Canning WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    I must be missing something here - it would appear that the American Armed forces were more numerous at both Torch and El Alamein that that of the British - very strange - or was this OB made up by an American ?? -

    just curious - wishing to learn who exactly took part at El Alamein - I know that Indian - Australian - New Zealand - Greek - French - South African and a few British troops took part at El Alamein but I can't recall which American divisons were there in October '42

    Cheers
     
  8. Auditman

    Auditman Senior Member

    You must remember them Tom - They were led by Eroll Flynn

    It looks as if the Orbat site only shows US Airforce support units. Shame really, a USMC unit winning at El Alamein led by Mel Gibson would be some film
     
  9. Tom Canning

    Tom Canning WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Auditman -
    Not Mel Gibson surely - wasn't he in the 9th Australian at Alamein ?
    Cheers
     
  10. Gerard

    Gerard Seelow/Prora

    I must be missing something here - it would appear that the American Armed forces were more numerous at both Torch and El Alamein that that of the British - very strange - or was this OB made up by an American ?? -

    just curious - wishing to learn who exactly took part at El Alamein - I know that Indian - Australian - New Zealand - Greek - French - South African and a few British troops took part at El Alamein but I can't recall which American divisons were there in October '42

    Cheers
    Tom, it doesnt state that US forces were at El Alamein, the organisation chart appears to refer to forces in theater at the time of Alamein as opposed to the actual order of Battle at El Alamein. If you drill down through the organisational chart then you will notice that it makes no reference to individual ground divisions but to General Breretons Air Force Units. No, this isnt a Hollywood idea of the Allies.
     
  11. Slipdigit

    Slipdigit Old Hickory Recon

    I must be missing something here - it would appear that the American Armed forces were more numerous at both Torch and El Alamein that that of the British - very strange - or was this OB made up by an American ?? -

    just curious - wishing to learn who exactly took part at El Alamein - I know that Indian - Australian - New Zealand - Greek - French - South African and a few British troops took part at El Alamein but I can't recall which American divisons were there in October '42

    Cheers

    I'm trying to find what you are referencing with this post and am unsuccessful. Could you post a link to the page(s) you are talking about, please, Tom?
     
  12. Tom Canning

    Tom Canning WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Slipdigit -

    Not a problem - Gotthard has already pointed that the article refers to forces in the area but the title of the link is that of El Alamein - which led to my confusion. I knew that Gen Brereton was at a lunch AFTER El Alamein - with Gens. Alexander and Monty - I took it that he didn't think much of Monty - Gen Brereton was also in charge of the air element at Ahrnem.

    North Africa, 23.10.42

    Cheers
     
  13. Slipdigit

    Slipdigit Old Hickory Recon

    Slipdigit -

    Not a problem - Gotthard has already pointed that the article refers to forces in the area but the title of the link is that of El Alamein - which led to my confusion. I knew that Gen Brereton was at a lunch AFTER El Alamein - with Gens. Alexander and Monty - I took it that he didn't think much of Monty - Gen Brereton was also in charge of the air element at Ahrnem.

    North Africa, 23.10.42

    Cheers

    So I noticed, now. I had not looked all the way down to the end of thread to Gott's post.



    Tom, it doesnt state that US forces were at El Alamein, the organisation chart appears to refer to forces in theater at the time of Alamein as opposed to the actual order of Battle at El Alamein. If you drill down through the organisational chart then you will notice that it makes no reference to individual ground divisions but to General Breretons Air Force Units. No, this isnt a Hollywood idea of the Allies.

    Thanks All!
     
  14. urqh

    urqh Senior Member

    A similar site here many may have seen, bit of a minefield too at times but if looking for individual regiments histories its quite a good one too.

    Home
     
  15. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Re-found the visual German lists I was thinking of:
    World War II day by day
    Klick 'KStN' and choose your unit, very well presented.
     
  16. Bodston

    Bodston Little Willy

  17. Bodston

    Bodston Little Willy

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