I've noticed quite a few threads today have mentioned if either the D-Day landings or Operation Bagration was the key event in 1944 that lead to the eventual defeat of Germany. In light of this why not have a discussion on which was the more important? Where both equally important? In my humble opinion I still think Bagration was the end for Germany. The destruction of Army Group Centre was a loss Germany could never recover from. It spelt the end of 2nd, 4th and 9th Armies plus the 3rd Panzer Army. The loss of men as quoted by Bergstrom is quite incredible: Second Army: 7,080 killed, 32,833 wounded, 12,976 missing Ninth Army: 2,955 killed, 13,957 wounded, 64,762 missing Fourth Army: 8,015 killed, 29,383 wounded, 113,155 missing Third Panzer Army: 8,311 killed, 33,508 wounded, 72,066 missing So what would your opinion be?