Old German tanks in Bulgaria (And Emplaced Tanks/Turrets in general)

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  1. von Poop

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  2. Paul Reed

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    That really is quite something - would be good to own just a turret! Where were they being auctioned? In the US? USSR?
     
  3. Owen

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    I like the turret conversion to fit the Soviet 76.2 mm gun in of the SU-76.
     
  4. von Poop

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    Trying to read that thread with google translation it appears that the auction has become a little murky, with officials dismissed and attempts by a Bulgarian museum to gain the best of the hulks.
    From what I can work out the sale now appears to be set for the 7th of May.
     
  5. razin

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    For what it's worth I have heard that the more or less intact stuff, such as the JPIV and the comparatively rare T34/76 turret are slated for Bulgianan Army/State museum, when they were recovered it was thought that the Bulgarians would make a finacial killing -rather like the Finns did with their Stugs,Charrioteer and Comet tanks a couple of years ago.

    The depression (lets call it that, rather than down turn) probably has had some effect, although some of the Russian ologarchs seem fairly immune to the current situation hence the Airpower 2000 web site interest, but it probably means anything still out in the hills will probably not wrecked by sinti scrappers who seem to have eliminated quite a few of the strongpoint- it beats me how they could afford the cutting gas.

    ~Steve
     
  6. von Poop

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    Anybody hear any more on this panzer-auction?
    Finding it tricky to confirm the current fate of these vehicles.
     
  7. rudicantfail

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    Hi guys, anyone heard any more about this story. Hopefully these people have not been stupid enough to just scrap the vehicles. Tanks from this era, what ever the state they are in must be worth far more as they are, than they would be worth as scrap metal. Collectors and restoration people must be desperate to get their hands on some of these tanks.

    Lets hope the Bulgarians don't turn them into scrap metal....
     
  8. von Poop

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    Seems to have ground to a bureaucratic halt.
    The most I could garner on the web was that the Surviving Soviet stuff was flogged off, but the March/April 2009 auction of the Panzers never went ahead, the vehicles being offered to the Sofia museum, the museum not being sure it wanted them, and then... nothing.

    I did potter onto this funny little slideshow though, containing most of the shots we've all seen, and a few others:

    [YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfR-iDufq8Y[/YOUTUBE]
     
  9. rudicantfail

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    I guess that the Soviet stuff was mainly T-34's, no JS II or KV's. Do you know if there is any list of what tanks the Bulgarians had used in their defensive fortifications? Shame to think that these relics are just sitting there, decaying, when there are people out there who would love to restore them..........

    It makes you wonder what might be laying around the vast areas of land and water in Russia! {The old battle fields , not post war defense positions.} Treasures, just waiting to be found.
     
  10. rudicantfail

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    I see that there is only about 10 surviving Jagdpanzer IV's in the world, 11 if they save this one from the scrap metal folk.
     

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    Some preservation of the Bulgarian Panzers going on now at Yambol:
    Pictures on that Wehrmacht Awards Thread.
    Reassuring stuff really - glad to see they're at least under someone's wing now.
     
  14. von Poop

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    Oddly, I decided to go looking for more on the Bulgarian Panzers' fate, and someone had posted this on WA today:

    14:50 onwards. Good collection, and do appear to have been stabilised:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spvRS7jXoOg
     
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