Official History of 2nd Battalion Royal Ulster Rifles in WW2

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  1. Pen and Dagger

    Pen and Dagger Junior Member

    I am interested in the soft copy of the 1 RUR official history. Can it be done here or with "we transfer"?
    Erik
     
  2. Quis Separabit

    Quis Separabit Junior Member Patron

    I am interested in the soft copy of the 1 RUR official history. Can it be done here or with "we transfer"?
    Erik
    I have a (pretty rough) soft copy of the 1 RUR official history buried away on an old clapped out laptop somewhere - can anyone advise the best way to make it available to everyone if I can dig it out??

    Unfortunately I haven't got the time at the moment to format it and put a website together as per 2RUR but no sense in not making the information available.

    Thanks.

    Quis

    P.S. If any one has any War Diary entries for 2RUR from June 44 onwards would be very interested in viewing/obtaining copies.
     
  3. Quis Separabit

    Quis Separabit Junior Member Patron

    For anyone interested in 2 RUR, I found myself at a loose end near Kew today whilst taxi driving for the kids so thought it only fair to pop in and do a bit of digging.

    End result is I managed to photograph all of War Diaries for 2 RUR for 1944 and first 4 months of 45 which can be viewed at following links for next 7 days only - fill your boots!

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  5. idler

    idler GeneralList

    Boots full! Thanks for sharing them, I'm sure they will come in handy.
     
  6. bugleboy2323

    bugleboy2323 Senior Member

    Anyone interested in 2 RUR can find a full reproduction of the official history posted at 2nd Battalion Royal Ulster Rifles in WW2

    Will be adding additional details as time allows but happy to receive any feedback, additional info an/or images etc

    Happy reading.

    Quis Separabit

    P.S. Official history also includes reference Sapper's unit as well as several other units within the 9th Infantry Brigade

    1st Bn. Kings Own Scottish Borderers
    1st Bn. The Suffolk Regiment
    9th Canadian Infantry Brigade
    East Riding Yeomanry

    P.P.S. I also have a soft copy of the 1 RUR official history - PM me if anyone is interested
    hi quis separabit,im new to this forum just my 4th post,my uncle [Thomas [Sandy] Adams]was a career soldier he enlisted in the R I R sometime in the 1920s then the R U R 2nd Batt I believe and finished his career with the London Irish Rifles possibly as a warrant officer.I remember as a small lad seeing him wearing a sky blue hackle in his caubeen. 2 of his postings were palestine and hong kong , would you have any info on him ? thanks bugleboy 2323
     
  7. bugleboy2323

    bugleboy2323 Senior Member

    here are some details on my uncle born in Belfast 1906 ashdale st have a picture of him in palestine wearing crossed sabres above corporal or sergeant stripes on horseback Ibelieve he was a physical training instructor in the battalion and was one of the trainers with the regimental boxing team,was also a polo player and was a sword fencer .hope this helps. bugleboy2323
     
  8. bexley84

    bexley84 Well-Known Member

    bugleboy2323,

    I guess your uncle served with the RUR in Palestine before the war..

    Any idea when your father served with the LIR ?

    best
     
  9. bugleboy2323

    bugleboy2323 Senior Member

    bugleboy2323,

    I guess your uncle served with the RUR in Palestine before the war..

    Any idea when your father served with the LIR ?

    best
    hi richard guess you misunderstood me ,all the details were my uncles he finished hi career with L I R im guessing 1945/46, my dad served in the welsh rediment and the H L I and were from Belfast :)bugleboy2323
     
  10. bexley84

    bexley84 Well-Known Member

    Thanks.

    Sorry, there was a brain to hand malfunction. I "knew" you were talking about the one man - your uncle.

    If you think he was with the LIR in 1945/46 was he then overseas with them in Italy/Austria during those years, do you know ? My dad was a CQMS and temporarily RSM/RQMS with 2 LIR near Villach in 1945 until their disbandment in early 1946.

    best
     
  11. bugleboy2323

    bugleboy2323 Senior Member

    Thanks.

    Sorry, there was a brain to hand malfunction. I "knew" you were talking about the one man - your uncle.

    If you think he was with the LIR in 1945/46 was he then overseas with them in Italy/Austria during those years, do you know ? My dad was a CQMS and temporarily RSM/RQMS with 2 LIR near Villach in 1945 until their disbandment in early 1946.

    best
    hi Richard,do you remember if your dad wore a sky blue hackle in his caubeen as I said, I remember my uncle wearing one,and I believe it was the L I R that wore them?as I understand it the sky blue hackle was worn by warrant officers and up.arnie
     
  12. bugleboy2323

    bugleboy2323 Senior Member

  13. bexley84

    bexley84 Well-Known Member

    I don't always agree with what's written on Wiki, but that seems about right. The colour of caubeen is also a differentiator, and also which side the cap badge is worn.

    This is what my father said about it:
    “After about a month, I was promoted to Warrant Officer II and was posted as CSM of HQ Company. I could not believe it. George Charnick gave me my symbols of rank: a green caubeen and blue hackle with the large chromium badge and a fine, black walking stick."

    To get chapter and verse on dates/ranks/postings, you could send off for his service records and that would cut out any other ambiguity.

    Ministry of Defence | About Defence | What we do | Personnel | Service Records | Making a Request for Information held on the Personnel Records of Deceased Service Personnel and Home Guard records

    best
     
  14. bugleboy2323

    bugleboy2323 Senior Member

    hi Richard,do you remember if your dad wore a sky blue hackle in his caubeen as I said, I remember my uncle wearing one,and I believe it was the L I R that wore them?as I understand it the sky blue hackle was worn by warrant officers and up.arnie

    I don't always agree with what's written on Wiki, but that seems about right. The colour of caubeen is also a differentiator, and also which side the cap badge is worn.

    This is what my father said about it:
    “After about a month, I was promoted to Warrant Officer II and was posted as CSM of HQ Company. I could not believe it. George Charnick gave me my symbols of rank: a green caubeen and blue hackle with the large chromium badge and a fine, black walking stick."

    To get chapter and verse on dates/ranks/postings, you could send off for his service records and that would cut out any other ambiguity.

    Ministry of Defence | About Defence | What we do | Personnel | Service Records | Making a Request for Information held on the Personnel Records of Deceased Service Personnel and Home Guard records

    best
    richard do I need a death certificate as I am only a nephew?
     
  15. bugleboy2323

    bugleboy2323 Senior Member

    hi richard ignore my last post apparently I dont need a death certificate.
     
  16. Bill Rapkins

    Bill Rapkins Junior Member

    Hi
    My father was killed in Overloon when I was a year old. I have only just got round to going through the letters he sent to Mum from France and Holland. I am grateful to Quis Separabit for the war diaries downloaded on 03/04/2012 which tie up with the letters.
    During and after DDay he was not with 2RUR. Letters dated June 10, 13, 14 and 15 he gives his address as 1. East Lancs, 38RHU, APO. Letters dated from June 19 to July 18 are addressed P (and the M) Sub Unit, 32RHU, 101 Rfl Group, APO. He reports that he is acting as Training Officer. He rejoined 2RUR on 20 July at Troarn. Can anyone add any details?
    Many thanks Bill
     
  17. Bircherry

    Bircherry New Member

    Hello all,

    I live close to Overloon in the Netherlands. When walking my dog I often park my car close to the War Cemetry over there. One thing that attracted my attention was why there is one Dutch soldier buried between around 250 Commonwealth soldiers. At the moment I'm trying to find out his story.

    Until now I have some personal details and this weekend I found out he was most probably with the 2nd RUR when he died while his mother unit the Dutch 'Prinses Irene Brigade' was fighting somewhere else in the Netherlands.
    On http://royal-ulster-rifles-ww2.blogspot.nl/2010/11/14th-to-16th-october-1944-overloon-and.html I found this sentence: 'Among the casualties was one of our Dutch Interpreters who was unfortunately killed when hit by a mortar bomb'.
    I also just ordered "The Rifles are There" 1st and 2nd Bns. The Royal Ulster Rifles in the Second World War. So I'm getting closer.

    My question: Is there more information about Sergeant Wilhelm Christian van der Burgt when he was with 2RUR? I can imagine War Diaries or similar.

    With kindest regards,

    Gerard Berkers
     

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