Novice needs help Fathers Service Record A & SH 1944/47

Discussion in 'Service Records' started by Keith Ross, Oct 11, 2021.

  1. Keith Ross

    Keith Ross A & S H

    Hello Everyone.
    I recieved my fathers records today after a 14 month wait (due to Covid). He passed away when I was 9 years old in 1977. I only know a few snippets of onfo past down by word of mouth and as a novice I'm really struggling to understand the terminology of the report. What I do know is that he was in Italy with the A & S H and had an awful shrapnel wound to his lower leg. He was in receipt of a war/army pension until his death.
    I seem to have been left with more questions than answers. If anyone can decipher any of the following it would be immensely appreciated. Thanks.

    133/44...... 58 PTW GSC 58PTW 15-6-44....................Date of joining General Service Corps ?
    167/44 ......A & S H ....8.1.TC (147/44) 27-7-44.............Date of joining Argylls.......what is 8.1.TC ?
    8.1.TC
    206/44.......Holding OPR Comm 18-10-44....................... ?
    No 1 I/D
    249/44.......No 1 INF DEP 26-11-44................................... DEP ?
    No1 I/D
    257/44.......No 8 INF HOL BN 5-12-44............................... Holding Battalion ?
    8.1 HB
    291/45..........DRAFT RPMPL (the M may be an N) 5-12-45............ No idea what this means?
    XCMF/1/46 .....X (IV)...........9-12-45.................................. ?
    XCMF/19/46.......373 PW Camp 3-1-46...........................POW Camp ? .......In Italy or if not where ? Can we pin point this camp ?
    XCMF................Hospital ... 15-6-46............................. Presume this is the wound to his leg.
    247/46.............. EXA to UK (sick). 18-9-46................... Returned to UK
    120 199 /46........Y/I List..28/9/46.................................. ?
    ........................... Y/6 List 22/1/47................................. ?

    Cause of becoming non effective...... Para 390 (XVl) R8R8 1940 ......... ?
    Home 15-6-44 to 4-12-45...........18 months in the UK......isn't that a bit odd ?
    CMF 5-12-45 to 17-9-46..................Central Mediteranean Force ?
    Home 18-9-46 to 27-3-47......... Medical discharge I presume ?

    There are quite a few entries blanked out........misdemeanors and medical I presume.

    Thanks...... Keith.
     
  2. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    This thread will explain that.
    Draft recognition codes.

    Yes, 58 Primary Training Wing.
     
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  3. 4jonboy

    4jonboy Daughter of a 56 Recce Patron

    Hello and welcome. If it is not too personal, could you please post the documents on the forum as we have members who can decipher them and explain to you exactly what they mean.

    Lesley
     
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  4. Keith Ross

    Keith Ross A & S H

    Yes. Wasn't sure if you were allowed to do that.
     
  5. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    As he got to the Med after the Italian campaign had ended I assume he was injured in Greece fighting in their civil war .

    edited post.
     
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  6. Keith Ross

    Keith Ross A & S H

    I have no idea Owen. I was always told he was injured in Italy.
     
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    Keith Ross A & S H

  8. 4jonboy

    4jonboy Daughter of a 56 Recce Patron

    You should have received a form B103 which is more detailed. Did you receive it?

    ITC is Infantry Training Centre

    See here explains X lists
    X lists (Service Records)

    Blimey, they've blanked most of it out.
     
  9. Keith Ross

    Keith Ross A & S H

    It's all blanked out

    Why have they done that ?
     
  10. 4jonboy

    4jonboy Daughter of a 56 Recce Patron

    It looks like he was only awarded the 1939-45 war medal.

    I don't know why it's all blanked out, someone may be able to help.

    Lesley
     
  11. Keith Ross

    Keith Ross A & S H

    This ?

    PXL_20211011_193716671.jpg

    Why is his wound not mentioned ?
    He was in reciept of an army pension.....all very odd.
     
  12. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

  13. Keith Ross

    Keith Ross A & S H

    Yes Owen. I think that is most likely the case. Looks like that record is not downloadable. How can we find out the location or would I physically have to go to the archives. I think he may have sustained his injury in the POW camp if the sequence of records are to be believed.
     
  14. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    You can either go to the archives & see them or ask some members on here to copy them for you for a fee.
     
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  15. Keith Ross

    Keith Ross A & S H

    Thanks. Is there a specific thread on here to request that Owen ?
     
  16. Keith Ross

    Keith Ross A & S H

    Just want to say guys thank you very much for your interest and help. Really appreciated. I'm a bit lost with all this. Thank you.
     
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  17. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    You could ask Gary Tankard , PsyWar.Org . I don't think Drew5233 is going for awhile .
    There maybe other members who are going I can't remember all of them. :)
     
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  18. Keith Ross

    Keith Ross A & S H

    Thanks
     
  19. Tullybrone

    Tullybrone Senior Member

    Hi,

    I’m sorry to see the statement of service papers have been “butchered” (redacted) so badly to make the content almost irrelevant - although it has been poorly done as a reference to a period of military detention is still visible on the first statement of services form.

    I can’t understand how hiding behind Rehabilitation of Offenders Act can apply to a deceased person?

    Steve
     
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  20. Keith Ross

    Keith Ross A & S H

    Agree Steve. Very disappointed to be honest. My dad passed away in 77.....is there anything I can do ?
     

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