north lancashire loyal regiment: John Terry FEPOW

Hello Everyone,
I am new to the forum so forgive me if I have posted this in the wrong place but I am trying to find out the date of birth and any other info for a JOHN TERRY.
I have found him on the ARMY ROLL OF HONOUR 1939-1945.

The info I have is ;-
JOHN TERRY - CORPORAL
Death 04/11/1943
number 3855492
birth BURY LANCASHIRE
Residence BURY LANCASHIRE
REGIMENT LOYAL INFANTRY
theatre of war MALAYA

That is what I have found .
I am interested in him as I have just found out that my mother had a older brother JOHN TERRY B1909 BURY. None of our family knew of him and I believe that it is possible that this could be him.

Is there any way I can find out his date of birth or his parents names ?
Any help gratefully appreciated
kath

 

These are the details you are looking for:

Casualty
Corporal TERRY, JOHN
Service Number 3855492
Died 04/11/1943
Aged 33
2nd Bn. The Loyal Regiment (North Lancashire)
Son of William and Ethel Terry; nephew of Mrs. S. Birks, of Bury, Lancashire.
Buried at THANBYUZAYAT WAR CEMETERY
Cemetery/memorial reference: B3. Y. 17.


Regards

Pete

 

This is the brief wiki entry for the 2nd Bn.:

Upon the commencement of hostilities in 1939, the 2nd Loyals found themselves stationed in the Far East as part of Singapore Fortress's Malaya Brigade. After the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, the 2nd Loyals fought in Malaya as part of the delaying action during the Battle of Malaya. Eventually, the 2nd Loyals surrendered along with the rest of the Singapore garrison on 15 February 1942. The survivors spent the rest of the war as POWs Japan.
Following the destruction of the 2nd Loyals with its surrender at Singapore, the battalion was reformed in Britain. The 10th Loyals were re-designated as 2nd Loyals on 28 May 1942.[8] Eventually the battalion was deployed as part of 20th Indian Infantry Brigade of the 10th Indian Infantry Division in Italy during the closing phases of the Italian campaign.[9]




I believe that if this man is your uncle, he died as a Jap prisoner of war.



There are groups who may be able to assist further in relation to this, but best you confirm its the same man first.


Pete

 

Thank you so much for the info.
I will let the forum know if I can confirm that the JOHN TERRY I am looking for is the one killed.
I have been looking to find his death details on GRO but even if I sent for his death certificate I do not think it would be of much help to me.

Thank you for your reply
Kath

 

Thank you for the link to the CWGC site.
I had looked on the site previously but did not find him,I have just looked now and he is there ! It names his parents so I now know for sure I have the correct John Terry
Rather sad finding him although now I know for sure what happened to him.
He is buried at THANBYUZAYAT Cemetery.
Is there any way I can gain further info on his service in the 2nd battalion loyal regiment or find out if he was a prisioner of war ?
Thank you Kath

 

If you edit your thread title to include 'Far East Prisoner of War', I'm sure that the right people will be along to help very shortly.

 

He was indeed a POW

Surname:TERRY
First Name(s):John
Rank:Cpl.
Service No:3855492
Service:A
Date of Capture:15/02/1942

Record Details

 

Kath

This is the group I was thinking of:

Fepow Community

Out of interest, whereabouts in Bury were they from, as I am from Unsworth and I have rellies who used to live at the end of Gigg Lane (the 1960's bit, not the part near the football club.

Regards

Pete

 

1911 census - household transcription
Person: TERRY, John
Address: 48 Woodhill Street Elton Bury Lancashire

JACKSON, David Head Married M 47 1864 General Labourer Lancashire Baxenden JACKSON, Anne Wife Married 23 years F 44 1867 Lanc Bury
JACKSON, Susannah Daughter Single F 18 1893 Cotton Weaver Calico Lanc Bury
JACKSON, William Son Single M 15 1896 Doffer Lanc Bury
JACKSON, Anne Daughter F 12 1899 School Part Time Back Tenter Lanc Bury
JACKSON, Hilda Daughter F 6 1905 Lanc Bury
JACKSON, Isaac Brother Single M 58 1853 Scavenger Lanc Bury
TERRY, Ethel Daughter Married 1 years F 20 1891 Cotton Weaver Calico Lanc Bury
TERRY, John Grandson M 1 1910 Lanc Bury

 

Kat, your Uncle died of Dysentry at or onboard KAMI SANKURA

http://www.cofepow.org.uk/lists/kami_sonkurai.xls

Sonkrai - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A River Kwai Story
The Sonkrai Tribunal

More prisoners of war died at Sonkrai than any other camp on the infamous River Kwai Railway. “F Force” -- seven thousand Australian and British POWs --was sent by the Japanese to build the toughest section of the railway in the mountains between Thailand and Burma. Three thousand died from slave labour, disease, starvation and exposure the never-ending monsoon rain.
Why did so many die?
After the war, a military tribunal tried five Japanese and two Koreans for those deaths. The account of the trial tells for the first time the story of F Force from all sides, Australian, British and Japanese, from the lowest private to the lieutenant colonels in command.
The testimony, verdict, and the surprise sentence shed new light on what really happened on the Railway of Death. The Sonkrai Tribunal is not just a story of the Second World War, the same issues are found in today’s headlines, as military tribunals try alleged terrorists. The book asks, if it was wrong to keep prisoners in inhuman conditions then, why are some in government today saying the Geneva Conventions do not apply to the war on terror?

SOURCE RobinRowland.com

The 2nd Battalion Loyal Regt

COFEPOW - The Armed Forces - The 2nd Battalion - The Loyal Regiment

 

You are all so kind.
I am completely taken aback by all your help.
I have been trying to find out what happened to my uncle John Terry for many years. He never lived with my grandparents and as on the 1911 census he is living with his mothers parents I assumed he was brought up by the Jackson family.Ethel his mother died in 1912 while my grandfather was serving in the navy.
Pete my grandparents lived on Connaught street,just off the Bolton Road opposite the Barracks. I lived with my parents on Bolton Road opposite the Barracks until the early 1960's. My parents owned a grocers shop Crostons road near Bury Bridge,it was knocked down to make way for the new road layout .
Off now to look at the info you have all kindly given me
Thanks again Kath

 

Owen thank you

 

englandphil,thank you.
On the record it says he was a SGT not a corporal as on the cwgc site is this a mistake do you think ?
kath

 

englandphil,thank you.
On the record it says he was a SGT not a corporal as on the cwgc site is this a mistake do you think ?
kath

kath, a lot of the records where recorded manually in difficult circumstances, so it is possible that it was written down wrong or he was given a temp promo whilst a POW.

Only his service record will tell.

 

Thank you

 

Thank you

Glad we have been able to help.

 

thank you Owen,really appreciate the photo.
regards Kath

 

Hi Kath,

Was up at the National Archives today, and in Japanese index box 51 looking for some of my POW's. Found John in the box, see his card attached.

The diagonal line across the card signifies he died as a POW.

Will pm you so I can email you the images.

Steve.