No 4 Infantry Depot location

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  1. Paul RM

    Paul RM Member

    In my grandads army records one entry says posted to no 4 Infantry Depot, he was a CQMS in the Hampshire Regiment 12th BTN. Does anyone know where this could have been please. Thank you.
     
  2. Tullybrone

    Tullybrone Senior Member

    Hi,

    Are you sure it’s not No. 4 Infantry Training Centre?

    I’m sure it will help members if you can post the extract with the queried entry.

    Steve
     
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  3. Stuart Avery

    Stuart Avery In my wagon & not a muleteer.

    Paul,

    I can only echo has to what Steve has asked. You have also not stated which year. I'm going of the Regimental History of The Royal Hampshire Regiment Volume Three 1918-1954 by D.S. Daniell. No sign of the 12th Battalion, but there is the 147 Regiment, R.A.C.
    (THE 10TH BATTALION THE HAMPSHIRE REGIMENT). You would have thought that the 12th would have been in the contents.

    Regards,
    Stu.
     
  4. Paul RM

    Paul RM Member

    Here we go, see if anyone can make sense of this. Thanks.
     

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  5. Tullybrone

    Tullybrone Senior Member

    Hi,

    Thanks for posting the extract. The entry is as you said in your original post.

    Sorry but I can’t offer anymore help.

    Steve
     
  6. Mr Jinks

    Mr Jinks Bit of a Cad

    12th battalion were formed when the 50 th battalion were disbanded? I think both were home defence battalions. The 12th were disbanded I 1944 with their fit soldiers transferred to the 7th battalion in north west Europe?

    Kyle
     
  7. timuk

    timuk Well-Known Member

    From WiKi:
    The 50th (Holding) Battalion, which was formed on the Isle of Wight in June 1940, absorbed the Royal Militia of the Island of Jersey. The Jersey Militia subsequently became the 11th Battalion, whilst the rest of the 50th Battalion became the 12th Battalion. The 11th Battalion stayed in the United Kingdom as a training battalion until the war ended, first with the 209th Brigade and later with the 135th Brigade, 45th (Holding) Division. The 12th Battalion also stayed in the United Kingdom, with the 136th Brigade, but was disbanded in September 1944 after sending a large final draft to the 7th Battalion serving in North-west Europe.

    Tim
     
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  8. Stuart Avery

    Stuart Avery In my wagon & not a muleteer.

    Paul,
    not sure why you have only shown a cropped section of the Service Record page? It would have been better if you had posted it in full image instead of thumbnail. If Wiki: is to be trusted, then i'll stop quoting from regimental - battalion & divisional histories.

    I'm reading the top line has;

    Admitted Military Hospital Colchester wef (with effect from) 5/11/40. I can't quite see the rest.Its about time that Wiki spent some money on obtaining some war diaries etc. Edit, still no sign of the 12th.

    Regards,
    Stu.
     
  9. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Stu, see pages 83 & 84 of that book. 12th Bn gets mentioned there. The bit that starts off about the 50th Bn.
     
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  10. timuk

    timuk Well-Known Member

    Just going to say that. That is the reference given by WiKi for the info.

    Tim
     
  11. Stuart Avery

    Stuart Avery In my wagon & not a muleteer.

    Thank-you chaps. I do hold up my hand. CHAPTER V11 THE HAMPSHIRE BATTALIONS IN THE UNITED KINGDOM. The 50th became 12th on page 71. More on 83 & 84 has you say Owen. Apologies on my part. Edit.. It did take some finding this morning.

    Regards,
    Stu.
     
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  12. Paul RM

    Paul RM Member

    Thanks guys for your comments Im away at the moment. Am I right in saying the home defence Battalion is different to the home guard. ? I will post the whole page of this particular record later but have lent it out to a family member at the moment. Memories from family members tell me that my grandad had been a CQMS and a Batman to a Captain whilst based on the Isle of Wight in 1941. Probably based in Albany barracks. It would good to know who the Captain was ?

    Does this help with trying to solve the location of where the No. 4 infantry depot was ?
     
  13. Paul RM

    Paul RM Member

    Here is the whole page of my grandads army record which i earlier posted a segment. If anyone can help details like locations of various places here that would be great. As you can see my grandad was quite ill during this time. Are the captains names his actual captain or someone who wrote this up?
    Paul
     

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  14. Stuart Avery

    Stuart Avery In my wagon & not a muleteer.

    Paul, re conversation via pm. Top of the page, districts of Bournemouth. Your Grandfather was transferred from Reception St, Burley to Royal Victoria Hospital, Letley, or ( Yetley?). I'm thinking the former. Not got my map to hand at the moment. This may make some sense to you? Another question that you asked was, where is Dovercourt ? Its in Essex! Will explain more. Source; page 84 of the book that i quoted in my post 3.

    Attended No1 Course for Officers & N.C.O's (None Commissioned Officers) at Southern Command, Salisbury Between 19-27 of May 41. Granted Leave on the 1/9/42 with R.A.L.R. ( Ration Allowance, Lower, or Local Rate) I'm not convinced about the latter. Others may say different. Sandown on the Isle of Wight.
    Admitted to Military Hospital, Dovercourt, Colchester in the County of Essex. On the 5.11.42. Discharged a day later. Do come back on here with the photo of your grandfather that you showed me in the pm. Hope this helps you out? Last Edit, does the photo have any writing on the back? Do please show it if that is the case?

    Regards,
    Stu.
     
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  15. Tullybrone

    Tullybrone Senior Member

    Stu,

    Is RVH not likely at Netley?

    Netley Hospital - Wikipedia

    Regards

    Steve
     
  16. Stuart Avery

    Stuart Avery In my wagon & not a muleteer.

    Steve,

    I'm not sure.

    Is Southampton near to Bournemouth?. Not meaning to be sarcastic here.

    I think it may be wise to wait till Paul comes back.

    Regards.
    Stu.
     
  17. Tullybrone

    Tullybrone Senior Member

    No offence taken.

    They are separated by New Forest - about 30 miles apart.

    I can't see any mention of Yetley RVH and the "Y" looks like an N to me.

    Netley was a well known military hospital - IIRC it's main building is now Hampshire Police HQ.

    Steve
     
  18. Stuart Avery

    Stuart Avery In my wagon & not a muleteer.

    Hello Steve,

    has I have said, i think its Letley in the district of Bournemouth not Southampton ( & I don't have a map to hand!) Do's the "Y" not look like "L" ?

    It does not say the acronym of RVH! It does say Royal Victoria Hospital in Bournemouth. Is there a Yetley in Southampton, & Bournemouth? This could be the case? Lets leave it till Paul gets back to us. Not knocking what you are saying regarding the Fox & geese.

    Regards,
    Stu.
     
  19. Stuart Avery

    Stuart Avery In my wagon & not a muleteer.

    At times like these, its wiser to use the Full Image instead of Thumbnail. Steve, its one or the other. Please do see the 12th line down. I've put a red line at the side of it. Click on image if required?
    20181003_111229_resized_2 (1).jpg

    Regards,
    Stu.
     
  20. Paul RM

    Paul RM Member

    To confirm it was Netley, Southampton guys.
     

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