New user - researching Border Regiment/CMP - McNulty

Discussion in 'User Introductions' started by Stormi n, Jan 19, 2017.

  1. Stormi n

    Stormi n Member

    Hi everyone,
    I hope someone can help me with my research? I have been reading some of the posts on here and you have some very knowledgable people.
    My uncle - Sgt. Frederick McNulty served in the Border Regiment between 24.06.1940 and 05.10.44 when he was transfered to the CMP.
    Although I have researched relatives who fought in WW1 I have no idea how to start researching my uncle's war service. His regimental number is 7261359.
    His daughters know nothing of his war service but believe he served in Burma.
    How do I start with this limited information?

    Thanks
    Norman
     
  2. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    This thread about army numbers shows he enlisted into the RAMC
    Army Number Block Allocations
    The number you gave 7261359 fits in here
    Royal Army Medical Corps 7245001 - 7536000
    I'd apply for his service records if I were you , 30 quid from the MoD.
     
  3. bamboo43

    bamboo43 Very Senior Member

    Hi Norman,

    Unless the family has more information for you, then Owen's advice is the only way to go. With possession of his service number, applying for Frederick's Army records should be straight forward:

    Here is a link showing how to go about the process:

    Veterans UK - GOV.UK

    Good luck going forward.
     
  4. Stormi n

    Stormi n Member

    Thanks Owen and bamboo43,
    I will request a service record as you suggest but I understand it can take quite a while?
    I was surprised that his service number fell into the RAMC block (I have attached the record I have).
    I have also attached a group photograph passed to me by his daughters, and what a motley crew.
    Fred is at the back, second from the left, with the cigarette.

    Regards
    Norman
     

    Attached Files:

  5. Tullybrone

    Tullybrone Senior Member

    Hi,

    From other topics on the forum it's currently taking MOD in Glasgow less than 4 weeks to deal with a request for army service papers - performance having improved dramatically over the past 2 years.

    3 years or more ago it wasn't unusual to wait 6 to 9 months.

    Good Luck

    Steve Y
     
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  6. Stormi n

    Stormi n Member

    Thanks Steve,
    I'll get on with it, I've downloaded the forms - just need to fill them in.

    Norman
     
  7. Deacs

    Deacs Well i am from Cumbria.

    Welcome Norman.

    As said as above the service records are the best way forward to learning about your uncle, but you could also contact The Border Regiment museum at Carlisle Castle. http://www.cumbriasmuseumofmilitarylife.org/about-us/research-enquiries

    This is what the museum hold on WW2 Enquiries. I have just edited some of the finer points from the link above.

    The only down side is now the museum charge for research this is a new thing that they have started to do unfortunately.

    WW2 Enquiries
    World War Two Enquiries

    What records does the Museum have?

    Although the Museum does not hold copies of individual soldiers’ records, it has the Border Regiment’s enlistment, transfer and discharge books for all soldiers who served from 1920 to 1949. These provide some basic information on a man’s service. There are occasional references in documents to individuals.

    What do you have to tell the Museum when making an enquiry?

    A soldier’s full name, regimental number, battalion number, and any other personal details known.

    Regards Mike.
     
  8. Stormi n

    Stormi n Member

    Thanks for the link Mike.

    I'll contact the site as soon as I can get the information together.

    Regards

    Norman
     
  9. Stormi n

    Stormi n Member

    My cousins have located another photograph.
    Are there any uniform experts who can recognise the attached uniform?

    Frederick McNulty again.

    Regards

    Norman
     

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  10. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

  11. Stormi n

    Stormi n Member

    I didn't think there was enough of the cap badge to distinguish the regiment - that's brilliant.
    And I didn't even notice the stripes. I have another photo of him just in khaki - but surely all khaki is the same?
    (Attached).

    Thanks

    Norman
     

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  12. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Nooo, first photo he is in Battledress , second photo is Khaki Drill.
    One is nice & warm made of wool, the other to keep you cool in hot climates.
     
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  13. Stormi n

    Stormi n Member

    :)
    Sorry, I obviously did not make myself clear.
    What I meant was, its probably not possible to deduce someone's regiment/unit from "khaki drill"?
     
  14. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Only if you could see what insignia was on the shoulder slides .
     
  15. Stormi n

    Stormi n Member

    Thanks Owen

    Norman
     
  16. bamboo43

    bamboo43 Very Senior Member

    Thanks for posting the photos, I've enjoyed looking at these.
     
  17. RCG

    RCG Senior Member, Deceased

    Yes interesting photo's the one in Khaki drill I would say late 44 when he was in the RMP. If anyone could name the flowering bush behind might just indicate the country.
    Group photo my impression is that it was taken in Sri Lanka (Then Ceylon).
    Top left hand corner was that chap getting out of bed or of the toilet? :)
     
  18. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

  19. RCG

    RCG Senior Member, Deceased

    Sorry TD, but Busy Lizzie is a small plant So I am thinking that its this one.
    India continent and Mediterrean. Seems to grow well in morocco.

    Nerium - Wikipedia
     
  20. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Well some varieties I know can grow up to 3 feet high and cover a large area - busy lizzie sri lanka - Google Search

    Plus they are native to Sri Lanka which is where the photograph is supposed to have been taken

    TD
     

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